[Mr. Douglas]

Prayer and the bible ;-)

I see the bible as HIGHLY useful in a general way (among others). As one really immerses themself in it, they can get a strong “feel” for the personality of God.

Where this comes in handy is i interpretting “confusing” scripture. Often what is confusing is someone trying to teach you false doctrine that needs to twist the meaning of some plain scripture. You know, like ‘The wages of sin is death”, where “death” doesn’t really mean death, and then they start preaching some myth about all the lost will suffer in a fire for all eternity.

When You know the bible, you understand the personality of God and know that that is hogwash.

[refreshed]

I don’t mean to start an argument, just an FYI, the Bible does refer to the
Lake of Fire as the “second death.” Also, that all sinners will have their part in it.

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I don’t mean to start an argument, just an FYI, the Bible does refer to the
Lake of Fire as the “second death.” Also, that all sinners will have their part in it.

[rollo tomasi]

Since we all physically die by default (Due to sin, but Jesus died to take away sin, yet we still die anyway, huh), then what is this other death Paul speaks of? Maybe its not a death, just temporal hardships. No, even those under Grace experience earthly hardships. Maybe just a timeout and God will just eventually invite everyone to "the party", thus going in complete circles on why there is death and sacrifices in the first place. Those "highly evolved" Fedora wearing "supreme intellectuals" will have a field day with this "logic".

I can see where "Hell fire and brimstone/devil horns/pitchforks, etc." can be an embellishment, however the concept of a perpetual Spiritual separation from God to the unrepentant sinner that rejects said God is based on reason (Oh, also Spiritual separation is one central theme in that "pesky" Bible people have a tendency to take too seriously /s, including one main Figure who kept on saying "It is written...").