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To: ebb tide
Der Ebb tide, I didn't ping you because I understood us to have an agreement that we wouldn't ping each other. However, since you seem to be initiating a volley, I'll join in.

"Jesus could forgive anybody of any sins in any manner and He did so. However, He instituted the Sacrament of Confession only after His Resurrection for his apostles to carry on."

Yes. I agree!

Jesus could still forgive anybody of any sins, and can still do so. He established the Sacrament of Confession to extend, and to distribute --- not to delimit --- the grace of His universal power to forgive.

It is an axiom of Catholic philosophy that we are bound by the Sacraments, but God is not bound by them. In other words, if we are aware that it is God's will for us to go to Confession for the forgiveness of our (mortal) sins, then we must do so because it is always wrong to refuse what we know God wants for us.

But if we didn't know, or couldn't go, God has other ways to forgive. He has not put Himself in an itty bitty locked box as if He were a prisoner of His own Sacraments.

Second, sins are also wiped away in Baptism and in the Anointing of the Sick. This is basic Sacramental theology. I have received the Anointing repeatedly, before major surgeries, and each time my sins were totally absolved.

Many saints who were privileged to receive visions of our Savior, were told they were forgiven their sins right the spot. Jesus told St. Faustina Kowalska that when He said, “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.” (Mt. 5: 7)He was showing us the many paths of mercy.

Mind you, all these saints greatly valued Sacramental Confession and urged all sinners to avail themsleves of this wonderful gift. However, in extraordinary circumstances, Jesus can forgive in other ways as well.

He is a genius, all-knowing all-powerful, limitless. He is God!

Do you read the Catechism, my friend?

73 posted on 09/18/2016 6:46:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

We never had an agreement.


77 posted on 09/18/2016 6:48:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Anointing of the sick is a new church abuse of the Sacrament once called Extreme Unction and the traditional proper exercise of it recommends the Sacrament of Penance and the Sacrament of Holy Communion, if the patient is capable, prior to Extreme Unction.

As far when to administer the Sacrament of Extreme Unction, from the Catholic Encyclopedia:

“Extreme Unction may be validly administered only to Christians who have had the use of reason and who are in danger of death from sickness.”


82 posted on 09/18/2016 7:10:59 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
In other words, if we are aware that it is God's will for us to go to Confession for the forgiveness of our (mortal) sins, then we must do so because it is always wrong to refuse what we know God wants for us.

Sorry I missed the above statement earlier. Are you saying that only mortal sins must be confessed in the confessional? And that venial sins are somehow forgiven outside it?

118 posted on 09/18/2016 9:02:51 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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