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Why Catholics are leaving the faith by age 10 – and what parents can do about it
cna ^ | September 5, 2016 | Matt Hadro

Posted on 09/06/2016 3:57:16 PM PDT by NYer

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To: PittsburghAfterDark
"Is the answer because at 11 they’ll be called upon to be altar boys?"

BAM! Post of the day.
41 posted on 09/06/2016 4:47:45 PM PDT by softengine
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To: ebb tide; AlaskaErik
Yes, I do disbelieve him. I’ve already stated that fact.

You're not adding anything new to justify your denial of another person's abuse at the hands of a priest. If you don't believe this was abuse, reread AlaskaErik's post.

I've seen it before many times on FR.

42 posted on 09/06/2016 4:49:45 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: AlaskaErik

Unlikely


43 posted on 09/06/2016 4:50:11 PM PDT by Birdman
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To: AlaskaErik
...where a child molester jammed a cracker down my throat along with some wine while babbling a bunch of nonsense in an extinct language.

Aside from casting charges against an individual for which you have no knowledge, you have no cultural sensitivity, which is further proven by your description of Latin as "an extinct language".

44 posted on 09/06/2016 5:10:52 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

“Aside from casting charges against an individual for which you have no knowledge”

He was there. You were not. This appears to be just your opinion.

“you have no cultural sensitivity,”

Ha! This is another way to blame the victim. Also a opinion without evidence. Also an ad hominem attack.

“which is further proven by your description of Latin as “an extinct language”.

It is not a spoken language in use today. It is a dead language on its own. Perhaps you need more cultural sensitivity.


45 posted on 09/06/2016 5:20:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: NYer

Good article and what it says is what I’ve seen in CCD. I’ve taught from 11-13 year olds.

Kids this age need reasoned logical instruction. The kind of touchy feelly stuff most women like turns them off. It’s hard for our local parishes to find teachers at all so relatively uneducated women is what most parishes can offer their students.

The idea that evolutionary (or any other science) is anti-Christian seems mostly a Protestant idea. Kids taught from a Catholic perspective never think there is a conflict.

The textbooks for kids this age are too simplistic and sometimes simply wrong. I used my university notes and bibles and put together my own scripture class. University style instruction challenges the mind and that intrigues the students.


46 posted on 09/06/2016 5:20:31 PM PDT by Varda
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To: heterosupremacist

“but if you may like it - or if you may not; if you were Baptized by a Catholic Priest on God’s Holy Altar, then you are - and ever shall be a Catholic.”

I don’t think that supported by theology or by the catechism. Full rejection of that forced baptism does not make a person a catholic. It also is the position of islam.


47 posted on 09/06/2016 5:29:28 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Latin is a dead language, as anyone can see...
First it killed the Romans, now it’s killing me...


48 posted on 09/06/2016 5:33:29 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: ebb tide

He opened the windows & all the good nuns left.


49 posted on 09/06/2016 5:37:53 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: AlaskaErik

Thank you for your reasoned argument. I do pray that you will find Peace and with that the ability to release your anger towards your family and towards yourself.


50 posted on 09/06/2016 5:45:00 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: AlaskaErik
This seems unlikely. By the time the laity were receiving Communion in both kinds (under the appearances of both bread and wine), Latin was not in use in the Mass. As far as I know, the laity have never received from the chalice at a Latin Mass--- at least, not for the past 500 years.

Moreover, no child would mistake a host for a "cracker" --- they are quite distinct in taste and texture --- and priests do not "cram" a Sacred Host down anybody's throat. It is placed on the tongue.

It sounds like you had a bad experience, and this is sad and disappointing. If this priest were a molester, I can understand how he could have spread trauma and damage which would long persist in the lives of his victims. This is the kind of sin for which Jesus said it would be better for the abuser to have a millstone tied around his neck and that he be cast into the sea.

But that is a judgment on abusers in general, not on Catholics in general.

To bad priests, my tagline applies:

51 posted on 09/06/2016 5:49:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (As it is written, "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." - Romans 2:24)
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To: NYer

Science and faith do not cancel each other out as this article proposes. In fact, science supports faith.

Read any NDE (Near-Death Experience) account and you will find the answer.


52 posted on 09/06/2016 5:49:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Well I have a lot a Grandkids.One said he was thinking about becoming an agnostic at age 14.I explained what an agnostic is.He said yea.The year before he announced on Thanksgiving he wanted to be a Priest.How do you answer a young man like that.Easy.I told him he wanted to follow his own rules.One Grandson was dating a girl and he worked at the rectory.Father asked her what faith she was and she said agnostic.She went out the window and now he is dating a girl who wants to become Catholic along with her Mother.Father prayed her out/:)


53 posted on 09/06/2016 5:50:33 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: AlaskaErik

No priest “jams” a host down someone’s throat.

The consecrated host is gently placed on the person’s tongue.


54 posted on 09/06/2016 5:51:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: heterosupremacist; AlaskaErik; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; ...
Sorry you were not man enough to move on, but if you may like it - or if you may not; if you were Baptized by a Catholic Priest on God’s Holy Altar, then you are - and ever shall be a Catholic.

Pure delusion. The clear requirement for baptism is repentant faith in the risen Lord Jesus to save you on His account, by His sinless shed blood, (Acts 2:38; 8:36,37) otherwise one only gets wet, which sprinkling an innocent morally incognizant infant does.

55 posted on 09/06/2016 5:51:24 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: heterosupremacist
Hey hetero, my friend, at our parish we have altar servers from age 8 to well into college.

It is different at your parish?

And is there some reason you wish to expose the service of the altar to public scorn?

56 posted on 09/06/2016 5:52:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (As it is written, "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." - Romans 2:24)
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To: DesertRhino

Re : #47 ~ I don’t think that supported by theology or by the catechism. ~

Well, yes; actually it IS supported by both.

This is the fun part :

“Full rejection of that forced baptism does not make a person a catholic. It also is the position of islam.”

First, “Full rejection of that forced baptism does not make a person a catholic.”

Well, no. The sacrament of BAPTISM is what makes a person Catholic!

Second, “It is also the position of izlam.”

Whaaa? Please enlighten and edify all of us breathless Freepers!


57 posted on 09/06/2016 5:52:26 PM PDT by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: AlaskaErik

All priests are not child molesters. Where did you get that idea?

You can always come back to the Catholic Church, the faith that Christ founded on the apostles.


58 posted on 09/06/2016 5:52:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: heterosupremacist

And being an altar boy, and then an acolyte are the first steps into the world of the priesthood.

FYI, Fourth graders and older can be altar boys.


59 posted on 09/06/2016 5:55:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; AlaskaErik
I've seen it before many times on FR.

Reminds me of Vladimir Lenin.

60 posted on 09/06/2016 5:56:39 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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