Posted on 08/01/2016 7:00:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
The Pope’s response to the violence unleashed by Islamic terrorists is not “do-goodery”. It is a “powerful and determined response”. The gesture of Muslims who decided to show their solidarity with Christians in the wake of the savage assassination of Fr. Jacques Hamel, is "an innovative and important sign," says Bruno Forte, a theologian and archbishop of the Italian archdiocese of Chieti-Vasto. Before catching his flight from Krakow to Italy, after the World Youth Day celebrations, he spoke to Vatican Insider about the presence of Muslim faithful in churches.
Yesterday, there were Muslims who attended mass in many churches to show their solidarity with Christians. What is the meaning of this gesture? “It is an innovative and important gesture because this has never really happened as a common, public gesture. It means that many of the various branches of the Islamic community want to publicly express their solidarity with Christians who have been hit hard by barbaric incidents such as the killing of Fr. Jacques Hamel. The gesture of these Muslim faithful is proof of what Francis has said: violence committed in the name of God, using the name of God in vain, is never justified. The true jihad is the battle within oneself to ensure that the good triumphs.”
Some are calling for strong reactions against Islam in response to jihadist terrorism. But the Pope has stressed that the war underway is not a religious war and has told young people that hatred cannot be conquered with more hatred. Why?
“I am deeply convinced that the Pope is giving the world the only message that is truly productive. He reminds us that responding to violence with more violence only generates more hatred, more death. If, instead, we respond with mercy and forgiveness, we have a chance of building a more just and fraternal world. I believe that the way indicated to us by Francis is the only way to achieve this.”
Doesn’t the evangelical response to events such as the ones in Nice, Munich and Rouen risk coming across as “do-goodery”?
“This is the accusation made against Pope Francis and against everyone who like him – myself included – insist that the response to violence cannot be violence. Do-goodery is a defeatist attitude. What the Pope is suggesting, however, is a strong and determined attitude, the attitude of someone who knows that in the end, force, violence and closed-mindedness only bring more pain and more death. Dialogue and forgiveness that is given and received, on the other hand, over time can lead to peaceful co-existence and the building of a better world. So this choice involves anything but surrender, passivity, fear, quietism or underestimation of the problem. It is a powerful response despite not resorting to force. It is inspired by the Gospel and is destined to bear fruits.”
“It is an innovative and important gesture because this has never really happened as a common, public gesture ... [Bruno Forte].
Bruno Forte is Bergoglio's personally selected henchman to carry out the brutalization of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate. He has closed their seminaries and convents and has forbidden them from offering the TLM. He has refused to allow the remaining priests to ask for dispensations to offer the TLM in the dioceses of friendly bishops.
Meanwhile, back at a Catholic ranch in Turkey, a truly Catholic bishop had earlier pleaded with Pope John Paul II, "I’ll end with an exhortation which comes from my experience: Muslims must never be allowed to pray in a Catholic Church, as this in their eyes is the certain proof of our apostasy. Thank you.”Abp. Germano Bernardini, October 13, 1999.
When Hitler tried to take Europe what would have happened if the world didn’t respond with violence?
These people are just.....stupid. Idiotic. Senseless. Clueless. Delusional. Dangerous. Pathetic. Sad.
It is a “powerful and determined response”.
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Only if he’s determined to submit
Anyone following that satanic book they call the koran is retarded. Period.
A powerful response would be flying to Saudi Arabia and meeting with the Grand Mufti in Mecca.
Show us how tolerant and peaceful muslims are.
No, it’s do-baddery.
It is an idiotic response, from a "fundamentalist" leftist kook.
Exactly. Catholic priests are being slaughtered at the altar in France, Whole convents raped and killed in Syria (listen to Steve Ray on EWTN regarding this), Christians herded on beaches and beheaded like animals. Yet, the political Pope culture Pope issues an encyclical on global warming? He disheartens and undermines the martyrs in China by going along with the Chicoms on appointments? As I told Dan-0 below, I pray for someone to rise up in the Church who will inspire; not undermine or dishearten. God is clearly punishing us with such a worldly man.
That's a cromulent take, but I fear it will only embiggen the enemy.
every single leftist is working in collusion...
“...Yet, the political Pope culture Pope issues an encyclical on global warming? He disheartens and undermines the martyrs...”
Say... not so fast, sir. Catholic theology does not allow for the faithful to so criticize a pope. Read the writings of Saint Pope Pius X for more on that.
Thus the true conclusion is that the man is a false pope because he is a heretic and enemy of the Church, for a true pope cannot teach error.
(Thus your screen name unfortunately is a bit of fantasy as a non pope hasn’t the authority to canonize saints.)
More on this is here:
http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/why-sedevacantism-cekada.htm
My dearest fried is a Muslim Palestinian and also my best man at my wedding. He rejects the creed of violence against Christians and Jews and would die defending himself, Jews, Christians and me. I would also die for him.
The problem is, he is the exception.
fried = friend: My stupid fingers hit the wrong key.
This Jesuit trained pope is as anti Christian as anyone I have ever seen
Catholic theology does not allow for the faithful to so criticize a true pope. Read the writings of Pope Saint Pius X for more on that.
The man is a FALSE pope because he is a heretic, non-Christian, and an enemy of the Church, for a true pope, such as Pope Pius XII and his predecessors, must be a Catholic and if a true pope, cannot teach error.
The faithful are permitted to discern this and act accordingly, regardless of how many others “follow” and support a false pope as pope.
From Saint Robert Bellarmine we read:
Therefore, the true opinion is the fifth, according to which the Pope who is manifestly a heretic ceases by himself to be Pope and head, in the same way as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the body of the Church; and for this reason he can be judged and punished by the Church...
...This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction… NOT AFTER WARNINGS OR DECLARATION BECAUSE heretics already before being excommunicated are outside the Church and deprived of all jurisdiction. For they have already been condemned by their own sentence, as the Apostle teaches (Tit. 3:10-11), that is, they have been cut off from the body of the Church without excommunication, as St. Jerome affirms…
[De Romano Pontifici 30]
More on this is here:
and here:
http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/why-sedevacantism-cekada.htm
Thanks for refreshing my memory on Bruno Forte..I knew there was a reason why I should question his comments.
I vow to… exalt the true Faith, and to extirpate the diabolical sect of the reprobate and faithless Mahomet [Islam] in the East. -Pope Callixtus III
Francis probably considers him a "Catholic terrorist".
Look for a lot of Americans to simply disobey an orders to give up their guns.
Correction: Disobey any orders.
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