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To: Iscool

Wrong!

I gave you the correct translation, and so did your friend Mr. Strong.

Ekklesia is not a church by any stretch. It is an assembly, or congregation, not a corporation of men.


797 posted on 08/15/2016 12:35:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Ekklesia is not a church by any stretch. It is an assembly, or congregation,

Of course it is...It's the church assembly...

Mat_18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church assembly: but if he neglect to hear the church assembly, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

And what assembly??? The church assembly...The Christian assembly...

And since you are admittedly not a part of the church, which assembly do you belong to???

799 posted on 08/15/2016 1:40:07 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor; Iscool; Elsie; metmom
Ekklesia is not a church by any stretch. It is an assembly, or congregation, not a corporation of men.

Once more, e-s, you do not know what you're talking about, because you're ignorant of the Hebrew, the Greek, and the languages into which the Bible has been translated. For your information, here is the meaning of "ekklesia" in two different Greek-Enlish lexica: Strong's Number G1577
ἐκκλησία
ekklēsia
ek-klay-see'-ah

(A) Strong's Definition (gives the meaning, but only English words as translated for the Authorized Version):
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is, (concretely)
a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish
synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both): -
assembly, church.

(B)Thayer's Definition:
1) a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly
. . 1a) an assembly of the people convened at the public place of the council for the purpose of deliberating
. . 1b) the assembly of the Israelites
. . 1c) any gathering or throng of men assembled by chance, tumultuously
. . 1d) in a Christian sense
. . . . 1d1) an assembly of Christians gathered for worship in a religious meeting
. . . . 1d2) a company of Christian, or of those who, hoping for eternal salvation through Jesus Christ,
. . . . . . observe their own religious rites, hold their own religious meetings, and manage their own affairs,
. . . . . . according to regulations prescribed for the body for order’s sake
. . . . 1d3) those who anywhere, in a city, village, constitute such a company and are united into one body
. . . . 1d4) the whole body of Christians scattered throughout the earth
. . . . 1d5) the assembly of faithful Christians already dead and received into heaven
Part of Speech: noun feminine

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One such "ekklesia" was the silversmith's guild, which was summoned together to combat the inroads that the Gospel of Jesus was inflicting on their manufacture of idol statuettes. The story is found in Acts 19:23-41. Actually, the guild was having an unplanned wild-cat meeting, unlawfully assembled to deliberate on their problem with Christians. The word ekklesia is described in verse 25, and used in verses 32, 39, and 41.

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e-s, you've been talking through your hat, trying to buy credibility by using terms about which you know very little. Please don't waste the bandwidth until you've learned enough yo be coherent, eh?

810 posted on 08/15/2016 3:42:16 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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