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To: MHGinTN
f you are ever born from above, I assure you your perspective will change and you attitude will change, and you will begin to actually KNOW the one Whom you are using as you foil on this thread.

Every 'soul/spirit intellect' place in the womb at conception is born from above. That is the first requirement to 'see' the kingdom of God. The devil nor his angels, will ever take this flesh journey. John 3:13 explains the instruction to Nicodemus. "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but He That came down from heaven, even the Son of man Which is in heaven.

Solomon penned a whole book, Ecclesiastes, regarding these flesh bodies, called it 'vanity of vanities.. He also penned 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is NO new thing under the sun.

10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, 'See this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us... (flesh)

11 There is NO remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.

Ecclesiastes 12 WHOLE chapter... in particular verse 7 Then shall the dust (flesh) return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it...

"Vanities of vanities," saith the preacher; all is vanity."

Paul repeats what Solomon penned... over and over again... particularly Corinthians 10 .... starts out reminding Christians about the 'law giver' Moses, then in particular verse 11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: (examples) and they are Written for our admonition, (warning) upon whom the ends of the world (age, = dispensation) are come.

There is absolutely NO example in the writings of the holy prophets of a 'rapture' and there sure is NOT going to be a 'new' thing.

Christ said Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

Christ never foretold us about a 'rapture', what he continually warned was deception..

Do you know literally who the 'anti-Christ' is? Christ and His holy prophets has told us repeatedly. IF you know who the 'anti-Christ' literally is, there is NO need for a rapture... and Paul told us what the tribulation would be in Ephesians 6 and specifically verses 10-24....

Paul talks about a 'mystery' in ICorinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that FLESH and BLOOD cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I show you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, BUT we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST (there are 7) trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed...

So long as the flesh walks this earth Christ has NOT returned.

AND so long as the 'law of gravity' is in effect, there is not going to be flesh bodies flying away.

Oh, I am NOT diminishing or ignoring the rest of ICorinthians 15... as Paul expounds upon further about some things of the 'law' and 'works'.

Paul further teaches... IICorinthians 5: 6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the LORD:

For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

8 We are confident, I say and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the LORD.

These flesh bodies have an expiration date and when they die they return to the dust from which they came, but the 'soul/spirit intellect', all of them, return to the Maker that sent them.

Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are Mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is Mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

286 posted on 07/28/2016 10:03:51 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

You confuse the trumpet of God with the messengers in the Unveiling of Jesus The seventh trumpet is sounded by a messenger. Voices in heaven proclaim the advent of the King and His kingdom. Not so when He comes for us. The Lord Himself will be descending from heaven with the shout of command, with the voice of the Chief Messenger, and with the trumpet of God (1 Thess.4:16). The trumpet is indeed sounded by a Messenger, but it is the Lord Himself, not another. In all He has the pre-eminence. He is the Chief Messenger. His voice alone can wake the dead. His blast alone can change the living.
hrist


290 posted on 07/28/2016 10:57:34 PM PDT by 5cents (fivesense)
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To: Just mythoughts
I'm sure you will be able to sort this out with this one clue: there are 100 trumpet blasts during the feasts of Israel and the last one is blown for as much air as the trumpeter can fill his lungs to make. That LAST TRUMP is a 'closeout' blast. Are you familiar with the Feasts of Israel, GOD's directed times?

You are referring in your post to '7' trumpets, as revealed in Revelations. Are you aware that when Paul wrote tot he Thessalonians John's Revelation had not been given yet? Paul would not have been referring to trumpets not yet disclosed.

322 posted on 07/29/2016 7:24:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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