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To: Ezekiel

Of course nothing he says is correct. He is a Christian using Jewish texts to “prove” something no Jew ever believed and something the Torah doesn’t say!

He can’t read or write the language, hasn’t studied for years under a competent rabbi, doesn’t know Oral Law, hasn’t studied any of a dozen secondary works and hasn’t spent time with others who HAVE, to learn from them!

How could he know?

If Christians just imagined for ten seconds what it would be like for an imam who couldn’t read a word of English telling them about Jesus, they would get a small sense of the absurdity.

He’s probably a nice guy, husband, and father. His ‘classes’ make people feel good and he gets positive feedback. That’s about it.

Now for a proper translation and Rashi, who just might know more than this guy:

6:12 And you shall speak to him, saying, “So said the Lord of Hosts, saying: Behold a man whose name is the ******** Shoot ********, who will spring up out of his place and build the Temple of the Lord.

Rashi

“whose name is the Shoot”:
He is Zerubbabel, mentioned above (3:8): “Behold, I bring My servant, the Shoot,” since his greatness burgeoned little by little. Some interpret this as referring to the King Messiah, but the entire context deals with the [time of the] Second Temple.

“who will spring up out of his place”: From royal descent.


15 posted on 07/27/2016 8:05:02 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Mr. M.J.B.
Thanks much. It's not even that these guys don't know, but that they go ahead and *teach anyway*. They cash the checks and then they excuse their ignorance, error, and slipshod work by saying "good scholars disagree".

There's a vast difference between alternate perspectives of the same material, and incompatible, contrary "facts". Lenses of different magnifications see the same object, so they can't by nature *disagree* with one another. But that's not what these guys are doing/seeing. They make stuff up and then claim that the disagreements [with truth] are all good.

When their teachings [by nature!] confuse the students, the students are trained to think they are too dumb, so they must then buy more books and videos, attend more prophecy conferences, and so on. Hmmm..

That all said, good chance I am going to appear grotesquely clueless myself in my following response to your comments. At this point I just don't care. Kind of like an Outcast ceases to be concerned with making friends or attracting positive feedback.

He can’t read or write the language, hasn’t studied for years under a competent rabbi, doesn’t know Oral Law, hasn’t studied any of a dozen secondary works and hasn’t spent time with others who HAVE, to learn from them!

The massive irony comes when this ends up as the description of King Messiah. How many people would laugh that off intuitively, and/or would be offended to the core? After all, that's the most ridiculous idea ever. Well, almost.

How could he know?

Right, how would he know how to DO anything without all that? He's the Torah scholar of Torah scholars, the very king of righteousness, surpassing all who came before. The greatest teachers will sit and learn at his feet.

So how on earth would he know? He *is* the Law, so he just does it. It's his nature, his business, his way of DOing things. The love, the compassion, the mercy, the whole bit. That's why he is the one. While everyone else is studying, writing, making YouTube videos, and posting comments on the internet, he's out there living the Torah with all his heart and soul and mind and spirit. At least my excuse for the excessive keyboard tapping - heh - is that I am putting out this absurd message for any takers. :)

All reduces to the simplest of concepts and the dumbest puns, where the Sod is the Pshat, and the parable is the literal meaning.

Rashi

“whose name is the Shoot”:
He is Zerubbabel, mentioned above (3:8): “Behold, I bring My servant, the Shoot,” since his greatness burgeoned little by little. Some interpret this as referring to the King Messiah, but the entire context deals with the [time of the] Second Temple.

“who will spring up out of his place”: From royal descent.

Why yes indeed. Zerubbabel = "sown in Babylon".

The flipped over story of flipped over stories, incoming. Purim x 1000.

Blessings to you and yours.

16 posted on 07/28/2016 10:31:56 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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