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To: Petrosius

“It is the decision of the holy Spirit and of us”

Are you joking this is your example of “tradition”?

They went to the Holy Spirit for guidance received that guidance then implemented it and that is what you call tradition?

“Nowhere in the Bible does it state the theory of sola scriptura.”

CCC #841 You and Muslims worship the same god and there are many more in your doctrine that disagrees with the Holy Scripture and in that you make the gospel into a lie.

1 Peter 4:17 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
17 For the time is, that judgment should begin at the house of God. And if first at us, what shall be the end of them that believe not the gospel of God?

2 Peter 1:19 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

19 And we have the more firm prophetical word: whereunto you do well to attend, as to a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

The reason Peter is saying this is trying to people not to fall for anything else than Scripture to include the ccc.

2 Peter 3:16 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

Perfect example in which Peter is saying Scripture not ccc or tradition, but Holy Scripture. Also notice that the Scriptures was already being twisted.

1 John 2:14 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

14 I write unto you, babes, because you have known the Father. I write unto you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and you have overcome the wicked one.

The Word not tradition or ccc.

1 John 2:26 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

26 These things have I written to you, concerning them that seduce you.

Written YOU compared to the ccc suducer.

No matter how bad you want it to work anything other than the Bible leads to the pits of Hell. That’s why you and Muslims worship the same god because you have chosen tradition over Scripture.


20 posted on 07/16/2016 8:38:08 PM PDT by mrobisr ( so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow)
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To: mrobisr
They went to the Holy Spirit for guidance received that guidance then implemented it and that is what you call tradition?

You should look again at the whole episode. The dispute arose in Antioch, not Jerusalem. The church at Antioch did not rely solely on Scripture, it did not seek guidance from the Holy Spirit on its own; rather it sent representatives to the leaders of the Church in Jerusalem. It was they, the apostles and presbyters, not the local congregation in Antioch, not the individual believers, who spoke with the authority of the Holy Spirit. Note also that their ruling did not become binding because it was latter included in the Bible. Rather, it was latter included in the Bible because it was an example of the hierarchy of the Church exercising their authority in the name of the Holy Spirit. This authority did not cease to exist when the books of the New Testament were finished.

Saint Paul also speaks of the importance of Tradition:

I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them on to you. (1 Cor 11:2)

Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours. (2 Thess 2:15)

We instruct you, brothers, in the name of [our] Lord Jesus Christ, to shun any brother who conducts himself in a disorderly way and not according to the tradition they received from us. (2 Thess 3:6)

Take as your norm the sound words that you heard from me, in the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. Guard this rich trust with the help of the holy Spirit that dwells within us. (2 Tim 1:13,14)

And what you heard from me through many witnesses entrust to faithful people who will have the ability to teach others as well. (2 Tim 2:2)

As for you quotation concerning the authority of Scripture, we too hold to its authority. What you have not shown is anywhere in the Bible that declares sola scriptura, that is Scripture alone. This is a man-made tradition of Martin Luther, not something found in the Bible.
21 posted on 07/18/2016 8:17:59 AM PDT by Petrosius
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