Posted on 07/14/2016 6:47:24 AM PDT by Petrosius
What if a Pope tells me something that is straight out of the communist manifesto?
That’s why he’s called “The Red Pope”.
Same with the POPE!!
I think that that was implied if not stated.
Or popes.
Instead, trust in the Word of God. It has all the answers you need.
Yes, indeed. The Word of God speaks to you through Scripture and Sacred Tradition.
As others have pointed out, this includes the pope. And I hope that by “catechism” he means the Catechism of the Council of Trent, not the modernist 90s version.
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"Sacred tradition" is merely a man-made artifice not deserving of our attention.
I am willing to bet that is not what he meant. He means the JPII Catechism which we know already teaches a different religion based on Vatican II.
The Bible is "man-made". It didn't drop out of the sky.
Men wrote it, men compiled it and men canonized it.
Seriously though, this is great! The fightback is on! First Sarah and now Caffarra. Yes, it's only two but it sends a message. We're not going to roll over and play dead like we did in the '60s when altars were smashed, altar rails ripped out and tabernacles moved. It also acts as a rallying cry for the laity who need to know that the insanity is not universal and there are members of the hierarchy, albeit few, who know the score.
The big difference now is the blogosphere. We have a means of communication by which we can rally the resistance which is why people like Fr. Rosica are apoplectic; they realize that they can't control it. Of course, the faithful will always be but a remnant so we're never going to see the College of Cardinals rise up and run this faithless rogue out of town on a rail. It's going to be rare, modern day equivalents of Athanasius who will hold the line while the majority lose their minds.
All "sacred tradition" is not so divinely-inspired and is therefore to some extent unreliable. The Bible is completely reliable.
Sacred tradition is merely the Church’s understanding of the Bible through the centuries. Unless you want to discount Jesus’ promise to lead the Apostles and those who came after them “to all truth” — a promise recorded in the Bible, sacred tradition is authoritative, not in contradiction to Scripture but as the church’s divinely guided *understanding* of Scripture.
Holy Scripture says the same thing about your CCC and any other non Scripture writings, but I guess that doesn’t count.
Galatians 1:7-9 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
7 Which is not another, only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.
9 As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema.
Notice Scripture says gospel of Christ and not tradition, or CCC, or RCC, or any church, or Talmud, but of Christ.
When Christ defeated Satan in the wilderness he used Scripture and Scripture alone.
Perhaps you need to look at the Bible again:
Then the apostles and presbyters, in agreement with the whole church, decided to choose representatives and to send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. The ones chosen were Judas, who was called Barsabbas, and Silas, leaders among the brothers. This is the letter delivered by them: “The apostles and the presbyters, your brothers, to the brothers in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia of Gentile origin: greetings. Since we have heard that some of our number [who went out] without any mandate from us have upset you with their teachings and disturbed your peace of mind, we have with one accord decided to choose representatives and to send them to you along with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, who have dedicated their lives to the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. So we are sending Judas and Silas who will also convey this same message by word of mouth: ‘It is the decision of the holy Spirit and of us not to place on you any burden beyond these necessities, namely, to abstain from meat sacrificed to idols, from blood, from meats of strangled animals, and from unlawful marriage. If you keep free of these, you will be doing what is right. Farewell.’” (Acts 15: 22-29)Scripture itself testifies that when the gathered Apostles and presbyters (not just the Apostles but also their successors who they gathered to themselves to share in the governance of the Church) decide on an issue that they speak with the authority of the Holy Spirit. Jesus did not leave us the books of the New Testament but established a Church that produced and authenticated them in his name. Nowhere in the Bible does it state the theory of sola scriptura. This is a manmade tradition that you received from Martin Luther, not Jesus Christ. Such a thought was unheard of for the 1500 years of Christianity.
Leaving aside the debate over the primacy of tradition and scripture, there’s an interesting thought experiment which occurs to me. Suppose that the early church—say, the third or fourth century—had made the following decision: “We believe God wants every believer to have his own copy of the Bible (and to make sure he is literate and that it is in his own language).” Would the printing press really have taken another whole millennium to be invented?
“It is the decision of the holy Spirit and of us”
Are you joking this is your example of “tradition”?
They went to the Holy Spirit for guidance received that guidance then implemented it and that is what you call tradition?
“Nowhere in the Bible does it state the theory of sola scriptura.”
CCC #841 You and Muslims worship the same god and there are many more in your doctrine that disagrees with the Holy Scripture and in that you make the gospel into a lie.
1 Peter 4:17 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
17 For the time is, that judgment should begin at the house of God. And if first at us, what shall be the end of them that believe not the gospel of God?
2 Peter 1:19 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
19 And we have the more firm prophetical word: whereunto you do well to attend, as to a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
The reason Peter is saying this is trying to people not to fall for anything else than Scripture to include the ccc.
2 Peter 3:16 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.
Perfect example in which Peter is saying Scripture not ccc or tradition, but Holy Scripture. Also notice that the Scriptures was already being twisted.
1 John 2:14 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
14 I write unto you, babes, because you have known the Father. I write unto you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and you have overcome the wicked one.
The Word not tradition or ccc.
1 John 2:26 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
26 These things have I written to you, concerning them that seduce you.
Written YOU compared to the ccc suducer.
No matter how bad you want it to work anything other than the Bible leads to the pits of Hell. That’s why you and Muslims worship the same god because you have chosen tradition over Scripture.
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