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The Rapture - Old Testament Types and Shadows
The Superior Word ^ | Jun 12, 2016 | Charlie Garrett

Posted on 06/12/2016 7:29:58 PM PDT by Lera

This is a comprehensive look into a pre-tribulation rapture from the Old Testament. It includes typology from Genesis, Exodus, and Ruth. It is well-researched and will certainly bless you as you see how God has shown, in advance, types and pictures of the coming rapture. Please enjoy this as Pastor Charlie breaks down these often misunderstood passages.

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: endtimes; evangelical; prophecy; rapture
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To: MHGinTN

The scripture is vague as to what or who “the restrainer” is that should be taken away in order that the “son or perdition” should then be revealed. Pre-tribbers have historically speculated that this “restrainer” is the trans-corporate “church” consisting of all existant Holy Spirit filled believers including those dead in Christ who shall arise first! Yet the bible doesn’t specifically say that, now does it? Many great teachers have argued it and it certainly may be true, hence we should all be ready. Many great teachers (also proclaim Jesus is the Christ come in the flesh) have argued differently with equally compelling biblically reasoned treatises. The Restrainer could be the Holy Spirit or an angel such as the one that contended with the “prince of Persia”...the Bible really doesn’t say...and believe me I’ve looked! I’m not denying a coming rapture, the bible says it will happen.

Revelation mentions two coming harvests...one of the righteous and one of wrath. It mentions the children of Christ suffering for a time and being killed or imprisoned by the forces of the Beast system....at least for “a time, 2 times, and 1/2 time”. The Holy Spirit won’t have abandoned the Children of God during this time...indeed I suspect the Beast system won’t have as easy a time in suppressing the Christians and the 144000 chosen witnesses, especially during the ministry of the 2 Prophets who as part of their judgments that they can lay upon the earth, can push back on the Beast when he attempts too lay to heavy a hand! At some point during this time, I think the rapture may come. I don’t see it happening after the 3.5 year point but at some juncture before because when the prophets are killed and the Beast sets up his throne in the temple and calls himself God, that is when fullness of God’s wrath falls upon the Earth and the believers were promised to be spared that. Still, it may mean that believers will have their “lands of Goshen” as did the Hebrews as the plagues fell upon Egypt and that the rapture occurs before Armegeddon and the final ‘harvest of wrath”. Some have taught that as well.

Matthew speaks of the elect being gathered by the angels and the world in general will be conscious of it and be fearful....two women grind at the mill but one is suddenly taken up is what the scripture says.

The rapture will happen...events in Revelation will occur as written, the only unknown is the timing of the taking up of the believers....Christ did say “he comes as a thief”. Yet it could be argued that the “restrainer” may not be the corporate body of believers that keeps the Beast system in check but some other entity or work of the Holy Spirit quite separate from the Church. I think if it was the Church, there would be no reason not for the Bible to say otherwise. So the ID of the “Restrainer” is still somewhat of a mystery! Will the “great delusion” cause many to not hear the truth and to fall under the sway of the Beast...yes certainly but Revelation also seems to indicate many who come to know Christ even under heavy persecution...and since no one can come to Christ unless the Holy Spirit leads him, it indicates that the Holy Spirit is still mightily active during at least part of the Beast’s reign. There is nothing in the bible that says the Holy Spirit leaves the Earth during the Beast’s reign, only that the Restrainer is taken out of the way.
Now I only mention the above as points to consider...I was raised a pretribber and my sentiments, rooted in my childhood upbringing are generally in that direction. The issue I have is that God and specifically Christ, historically does things or performs in ways that sometimes goes against all that men were expecting or had translated or interpreted from scripture....yet when examined against the wording of scripture, the actions of God were prophesied truly! The Jews expected Christ to be something that he never was according to their expectation, yet Christ stated...”Before Abraham, I AM” and all his actions and persona matched that of what the Torah said he was to exhibit, not what the Jews had thought via their traditions that he should exhibit.
Based on that, I think coming events may go exactly what the Bible says will happen, not necessarily what we always thought the Bible was interpreted as saying what will happen! I believe that is also part of what Christ said when he says (in present tense as translated from the greek, interestingly enough)”I come as a thief”!


41 posted on 06/13/2016 12:48:08 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6
I have studied the issue very deeply and concluded that the Restrainer is The Holy Spirit of God. ONLY God constrains the evil one. even Michael would not confront him directly, but called God's rebuke for him.

When God removes the Holy Spirit as He is functioning during the Church Age, birthing believers from above and placing His spark of God Life in them, we would not be delivered from the hour of testing if we no longer have the Holy Spirit of Promise with us, would we! The solution to that apparent dilemma is that when He is taken from His current ministry to built up the body of believers under pure Grace of God in Christ, when the Jews are the evangelizers during the Tribulation we will be outta here.

42 posted on 06/13/2016 2:48:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: mdmathis6

But I do enjoy your take on these interesting issues. Lest we forget, these are not beliefs which hold our salvation in the balance, merely comforting truths we should be studying ... for the comfort factor.


43 posted on 06/13/2016 2:50:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: StormPrepper

I hasn’t started yet .
What is happening in the middle east is a sneak peak while the beast nations sort their stuff out before they rise .

Prepping is good but if you don’t know what you believe and why you believe it you won’t survive.


44 posted on 06/13/2016 4:27:35 PM PDT by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: MHGinTN
Your founding...

Your internet thug routine is... boring.
45 posted on 06/13/2016 6:03:54 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: Lera

Bkmk


46 posted on 06/13/2016 6:09:35 PM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man.)
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To: StormPrepper

I encourage you to keep preparing for the seven years ahead. You will need a whole lot of food, wel hidden, and much arms with ammo to make it to the view of the abomination that makes desolate. Perhaps THEN you will truly call upon the One God presents to us in three persons, for salvation. Joe Smith isn’t going to be of any help where he is now ... don’t go there!


47 posted on 06/13/2016 6:21:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN

Michael did confront Satan directly when they contended over the body of Moses(proving that Moses did die as some Christians mistakenly think he was taken up alive to be one of the two witnesses later...the Bible says he was buried in one of the valleys in the land of Moab). Michael just didn’t judge Satan ...from Jude:”9But even the archangel Michael, when he disputed with the devil over the body of Moses, did not presume to bring a slanderous judgment against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”

Now the verse in context>Jude 1:4For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into licentiousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

5I will therefore put you in remembrance, though you once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

6And the angels who kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after unnatural lust, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise authority, and speak evil of the glorious ones.

9Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil as he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke you.

10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

The angels of God do confront those of Satan and even Satan himself....they just don’t judge them for that is up to God himself. That is why I have questioned the ID of the “restrainer”. It might be the Holy Spirit directly, it might be a special angel or entity set up specifically to keep the entrance of the Beast in Check or it could be just the Church with the influence of the Holy Spirit that keeps the Beast in check. As for the Holy Spirit, he existed in the hearts and lives of believers even before God loosed him to be extant upon the earth....even if God should take him off the Earth, he would still exist in the hearts of the believing to empower and strengthen them as he did with Christ and the prophets of old.

The other scriptures that speak of end times issues and what happens to believers specifically don’t all dovetail nicely with the Pre-trib doctrines and Revelation seems to point of a time of severe testing for latter day believers, even to the point of being dominated by the Beast system for a time. Yes they could be believers who came to faith after the “big lift off” as it were but there seems to be a lot of teasing of needed scriptures to get to that point of belief.

I think as Christians, we need to be prepared that events may not go in the way we “always” expected them to go so that we don’t despair when we are tempted(and I use that word in its most active demonic meaning) to feel that God may have abandoned us or worse that we have believed in a lie.(that will be the greatest danger and it may be the ultimate point of the testing of many a person’s faith) God will not abandon us or his children no matter what scenario emerges! If the big “lift off” occurs as pretribbers expect...well wonderful and we’ll all certainly be rooting and praying for those who come to faith during the final 7 years!

The great apostacy has begun I believe but the great delusion has not yet been laid down(that they should believe a lie). Should the Son of Perdition be revealed before the rapture we should still not be disheartened but rather we should draw together closer in unity. Christ will be opening the seals and we will receive wisdom and grace, we will be instructed as to how to live and survive...we will not be alone! Revelation says that God will put his seal on his believers so that they don’t receive the same punishments as those who took the Beast’s mark. (Obviously the great delusion doesn’t effect everyone lest there be no one saved at all during the tribulation)

To sum up...Pre-trib rapture happens...great! If the rapture tarries for a time until after the rise of the Beast...then be as Shadrach, Meshak, and Abednigo who declared when facing the firey furnace” God is able to deliver us but even if he doesn’t we will still not bow down to the king’s image”!


48 posted on 06/14/2016 5:01:14 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Lera
[Lera]I hasn’t started yet.

Most people are looking for grand signs and wonders. They are waiting for something official. A consensus among people. Most people it seems don't have faith in themselves enough to make the call. They assume that everyone will know it before them.

The Jews did this at the time of Christ. They were looking for something grand and couldn't recognize that the simple man in front of them was the Son of God.

This is the pattern of God, to be simple. Jesus was so unassuming that the Romans couldn't pick Him out of a crowd, Judas had to point Him out.

1 Cor 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

Remember this life is a test. And God tests us by not choosing the obvious. He makes us go look for it, to seek out answers. Mainly in order to humble ourselves and ask our Father in Heaven to show us the answers.

Acts 2: 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

The earth will be consumed by blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke.

Rev 8:
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

Something big is going to happen to the earth itself. Volcano or Asteroid or nuclear war. But something is going to cause a lot death and a lot of smoke and burn up a lot of the planet.

All of that is the climax and the Lord returns to put an end to it all.

The build up to the climax is still the tribulation. It doesn't need to be over analyzed. The signs are there.

The problem a lot people have, again is they are looking for the sensational. Hollywood has made movies depicting a grand charismatic leader called the "anti-Christ".

The anti-Christ always has been the devil. He is the anti-Jesus, like anti-matter. The world is giving him power right now, he is rising to his greatness. The devil has no power of his own but what people give him.

The great destruction that's about to come on the earth is because of the great wickedness mankind is doing. It's not a punishment. God uses destruction to humble people so that they will remember Him and call out to God for deliverance. He's trying to recover people, get them to repent. But this time it's on a global scale because the wickedness and evil is global.

Peter prophesied about that time:
Acts 2:
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


Moses had the same experience, he told the Israelites if they would just simply look at his staff they would be saved from being poisoned.

Same thing with Abraham and Lott. If they could find a righteous person in Sodom...if anyone in Sodom would have listened to the prophet and followed Abraham they would have been saved from the destruction of Sodom.

This is the pattern of God.

God has set this pattern up in the last days for the destruction that's about to happen.

Rev 11, two real prophets in the last days, among many, that will lead the people to safety if, as Peter said, they will call upon God.
49 posted on 06/14/2016 6:54:45 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper

Is that the ‘official’ Mormon position, from your Mormon Prophet? Or is it your personal take on the Bible message?


50 posted on 06/14/2016 9:32:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN; All
Is that the ‘official’ Mormon position, from your Mormon Prophet? Or is it your personal take on the Bible message?

Pretty cool how the vision of the prophets all flow together. The prophets saw the same events and emphasized different aspects of it in their writings.

It's also the pattern of God, if He is going to require a prophet to do something huge like give up their lives, or lead the people to a promised land, or restore the entire gospel of the Jesus Christ to the earth, for His cause, He blesses that prophet with a personal visit. Probably because there is an eternal law that decrees, where much is given, much is expected.

So the Lord gives much, a personal visit, then expects a super human effort from the prophet. I'm guessing that's why in Rev 11, the scripture reads:

Rev 11
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

They will stand before God as the other prophets did, then they will be asked to give up their lives.

Rev 11
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.


Rev 11 is key.... for you. It's not key for me, because I will know them before they are killed. You on the other hand have a huge problem. You will never recognize them as prophets and you will reject them outright, because you already have. By Jesus' own words if you reject the prophet you reject the God who sent him. And no amount of belief or claims of holiness will get you passed it.

If these are the last days, then those two prophets are already on the earth. Already teaching. And you don't know them. It's only a matter of time. When they are killed, you have 3 days left.

Which ever Church they belong to is teaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ.


51 posted on 06/14/2016 12:16:43 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: MHGinTN; All
Remember this, you and all of modern Christianity traces it's root back to the RCC. You can't claim your beliefs come from the Bible, because the RCC gave you your Bible too.

Everything you believe has it's roots in the RCC.

So there's really only two Churches. The RCC and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The RCC's fate is your fate too. Because the author of their gospel is also the author of yours.

It doesn't matter if your a Baptist or a Lutheran. Both are break-offs of the RCC. They can squabble over details, but they are come from the same place.

I can't trace anything back to the RCC. No roots to the RCC at all. We are completely separate and different.

Jesus proclaimed that when He judges the world, among the believers, only a few would be saved. Only a few.

Which one of us belongs to the few?

It's either like the RCC says that the Church never fell away and they've kept it going. Which is patently false. I can show exactly the milestone in history where God rejected them. The founders of the RCC created their own church which was not the Church Christ set up. Nor did they continue it.

Or the truth is as the Mormon's say. The Church fell away as it was foretold in scripture and had to be restored and was restored by the prophet Joseph Smith. And it continues today with Apostles and Prophets just like it did in the original Church that Jesus set up.

Which you reject.

Which rejection Paul prophesied would happen among the those claiming to believe on Jesus' name. The people claiming to be godly in the last days would reject the true prophets of the last days.

Which is why Jesus' said only a few would be saved.

It's really cool how it all flows together.


52 posted on 06/14/2016 12:49:14 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
"... all of modern Christianity traces it's root back to the RCC. You can't claim your beliefs come from the Bible." So says the Mormon who follows Joseph Smith!

If you pay attention, Mormon, you notice that non-Catholic CHRISTIANS follow the Bible, like taking the advice which seemed good to The Holy Spirit. Your manufactured religion, on the other hand, doesn't even believe God's own words. YOUR religion of Mormonism has gross blasphemies at its heart, like the Lorenzo Snow couplet, where Snow (Prophets of Mormonism anyone?) states that 'as We are now god once was; as god is now we can be.'

The History of your religion ends any trust in the spewings from your 'prophets' or your 'other scriptures'. Run along, you have been outed as a false source for truth.

53 posted on 06/14/2016 12:59:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
No Christian deserves a magic escape ticket.

And here is where your reasoning fell apart.

54 posted on 06/14/2016 1:04:00 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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To: StormPrepper

Do you think John was referring to the Mediterranean Sea when he wrote the vision of the “burning mountain” or do you think it means that the ‘big dump” happens in the Pacific or the Atlantic? I’ve always assumed it was the Pacific or the Atlantic but perhaps it was just the Mediterranean Sea and a third of all the local shipping and the sea life is destroyed there. It would still be a horrible catastrophe!


55 posted on 06/14/2016 1:11:21 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: MarchonDC09122009

First of all you are right in that no Christian deserves a magic escape ticket...matter of fact we all deserve hell fire! We don’t deserve any sort of salvation, period!

Next, the early church fathers and on down through the ages have spoken of a rapture....the Bible says there is going to be one. The argument is simply the timing of when it will occur. Perhaps Darby and Scofield exploded the concepts beyond the traditional orthodoxical confines in which the rapture was taught but they weren’t the first to speak of it.

Paul spoke of a time “at the last trumpet...”(whether it really meant at the last trumpet sounded by the angel in Revelation or whether it was a euphemism for the “last days” or the last trumpet in terms of wedding feast of Jesus’ era in which the Bride groom would suddenly appear to take his bride) 1 Thessalonians 4:1615By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.…...

1 Corinthians 15:51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.…(hmm sounds like a certain Handel’s Messiah chorus.....)Yes they knew about the rapture back then!

When it occurs is the what the big fuss is all about...but not the “IF”.

Matthew speaks of the angels gathering up his children in the last days;the rapture or the in gathering of his children so to shield them from the wrath of God to fall upon the earth was promised by Jesus. He did not say we would be in gathered to spare us from persecution but from the wrath of God to fall upon the Earth! Horrible stuff happens in the first 3.5 years of the last seven years but the days of wrath are in the latter half ...and even they would be cut short lest there be no life left on Earth! So the argument is over the timing of his coming in the air to meet us.(with the dead in Christ rising first)


56 posted on 06/14/2016 1:42:49 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: DungeonMaster

Well, I guess the hundreds of thousands of “Christian” Egyptian Copts, Syrians, Libyans, Iraqis who are being persecuted by Muslim monsters, (hell-on-earth martyr beheading, burned to death, rape til dead) must have poor timing.
Most likely they prayed fervently as their head was coarsely sliced off, and as their flesh seared on fire.
Likely all of the other Millions of Christians and Jews who were slaughtered during WWII, WWI, other conflicts fervently prayed for mercy and god’s divine intervention.
God’s will is a difficult mystery...

I cannot help but not accept modern day just-wait’in to-escape-any-day-now christain doctrine.
Nobody gets out of here alive.

And it seems like the most mistaken self-possessed modern interpretation of biblical script written in the 1600’s by the Church of England.
That some day in the future, much luckier believers with good timing will escape real bad end-of-days tribulation, than the countless other poor souls with bad luck and timing who died, martyred for their faith.

I don’t care to argue about scriptural interpretation minutia because there’s no absolute on earth authority to set the record straight once and for all.
We’ll just have to wait and see.

Be well, you and yours.


57 posted on 06/14/2016 1:46:59 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: StormPrepper

You only know of Paul because the RCC preserved his letters. There-fore what little Bible the Mormons choose to believe in comes from the RCC as well. Apparently you Mormons just can’t escape the RCC’s clutches as well...to use your own logic...Mormons are just as doomed then!(that is if you consistently follow your own logic)


58 posted on 06/14/2016 2:02:31 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: MarchonDC09122009
You blustered, "Nobody gets out of here alive." If you had even read the Scripture passage quote in the previous post, perhaps you would not make a fool of yourself by contradicting SCRIPTURE. Then again ...

1 Thess 4:13 But we do not want you to be ignorant ... 15 For we declare to you what the Lord has told us to say:c We who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have died. ... 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air.

So, 'Nobody gets out of here alive', REALLY? God refutes your assertion.

59 posted on 06/14/2016 2:16:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: mdmathis6
[mdmathis6]Do you think John was referring to the Mediterranean Sea when he wrote the vision of the “burning mountain” or do you think it means that the ‘big dump” happens in the Pacific or the Atlantic? I’ve always assumed it was the Pacific or the Atlantic but perhaps it was just the Mediterranean Sea and a third of all the local shipping and the sea life is destroyed there. It would still be a horrible catastrophe!

Largest Volcano in the world.

Is in the Pacific Ocean. The prophet described it as a mountain of fire thrown into the sea... He could have been describing an asteroid collision too. However, I'm leaning toward a volcano because how a long term large eruption like a caldera would poison the waters. Which would account for the large amount of sea life killed that the prophet described.

This is why a large food storage is essential. You probably won't be able to leave your house for a long time. Food stores will be empty.

I doubt it will be anywhere near Israel. Because Israel is intact at the battle of Armageddon. Anything in the Med would be swept west right into Israel.

Could you have something as big as what was prophesied be in the Med and Israel still be intact?

I kinda makes sense though because of the reasons you stated.
60 posted on 06/14/2016 4:35:25 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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