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CAMPAIGNERS FOR WOMEN'S ORDINATION HAVE UNPRECEDENTED MEETING WITH VATICAN REPRESENTATIVE
The Tablet ^ | June 1, 2016 | Christopher Lamb

Posted on 06/02/2016 8:12:50 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: NRx

I wouldn’t be surprised. Francis has already indirectly [if not directly, e.g Schonborn] invited unrepentant adulterers to sacrilegiously receive Holy Communion. And earlier, he implied it was up to a Lutheran’s conscience on whether or not to receive Holy Communion at a Catholic Mass.

Between the above and his refusal to genuflect at the Consecration or before a tabernacle, he still seems to have the agility to get down on his knees and wash the feet of non-believers on one of the most solemn days of the Church calendar.

Not only that, he had earlier dropped to his knees to get “blessed” by heretics.

I truly believe the man does not believe in the Transubstantiation, between his beachballs and distribution of Holy Communion in plastic beer cups.


21 posted on 06/02/2016 1:26:45 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

What a crock!


22 posted on 06/02/2016 2:29:37 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

We have a saying, “Priests and Hierarchs come and go. We stay. “


23 posted on 06/02/2016 2:32:14 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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To: ebb tide

Many cardinals and theologians (I don’t mean Ben and JP) have not believed it for a long time, and not just since Vatican II, but before.

What we will see a few centuries from now is “transubstantiation” has been slowly redefined. Why do we no longer hear the word? Why is kneeling discouraged? Why has the somewhat inaccurate phrase “real presence” replaced “body and blood of Christ”? Why “community” instead of “communion of saints”? Why the insistence on “eucharist” over “blessed sacrament”? I’m sure you’ve seen more than I have, too.

Those are not haphazard modernisms due to merely linguistic or social trends. They are deliberate, gradual steps to a vision long cherished in certain high circles. These changes were not caused by Vatican II and they will not be reversed any time soon. The true Church will exist within the larger one (I won’t say the “false” one...???)


24 posted on 06/02/2016 9:50:01 PM PDT by opus1 (This is all getting rather confusing.)
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These changes were not caused by Vatican II and they will not be reversed any time soon.

True. Changes were happening before then (for example, the liturgical reform movement started in the 40's), but Vatican II made the changes official. It's been down hill ever since....

The true Church will exist within the larger one (I won’t say the “false” one...???)

This is an interesting comment because Vatican II teaches that Christ's Church "subsists in" the Catholic Church, rather than "is" the Catholic Church which is what the Church has always taught. The Novus Ordo apologists will explain this away but it is a very clear denial of Catholic Truth.

25 posted on 06/03/2016 2:24:47 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: ebb tide
For the first time the group has been given official permission to hold a public demonstration in the gardens of Castel Sant’Angelo on Friday..."

On the Feast of the Sacred Heart.

Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus

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26 posted on 06/03/2016 3:01:09 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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So they're having their heretical rally in the Vatican's garden of Sant'Angelo. Who did the inviting? According to the article, "an official" (unnamed) in the "Vatican Secretariat of State."

Right proud of his initiative, that one --- and prefers to remain anonymous?

Who was it?

27 posted on 06/03/2016 5:09:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Praying is often better than posting.)
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