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To: Mom MD
Quote: It is taught by Paul Is that an early enough church father for you?

every time the NT mentions timing associated with the rapture, the timing in ALWAYS after the tribulation! to wit:

Matt 24:29 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days

2 Thessalonians 2 2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him... 3 ...for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

I Cor 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

After the tribulation...after man of sin...last trump...last day.

show ONE verse that indicates the timing is before! You must explain away the plain reading of each of these with your special theory, that was unknown until McDonald and Darby.

56 posted on 05/21/2016 11:04:36 AM PDT by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it wors)
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To: jimmyray

So scripture records Enoch and Elijah and Jesus being taken into heaven physically but forgets to mention Mary being taken into heaven physically? Please!!

You say to mom-md “show ONE verse that indicates the timing is before! You must explain away the plain reading of each of these with your special theory” ....please you do the same, show one verse that Mary was taken physically into heaven. You Jimmyray are explain in away tye plain reading of each of these scriptures with your special theory.


59 posted on 05/21/2016 11:21:31 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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