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To: MHGinTN
The quoted section from Irenaeus addresses the people written of in Daniel. These would be Jews, not the Church.

Except that, as I showed from Irenaeus's writings a few posts back, when he discusses Daniel, Irenaeus makes explicit reference to the Church!:

1. In a still clearer light has John, in the Apocalypse, indicated to the Lord’s disciples what shall happen in the last times, and concerning the ten kings who shall then arise, among whom the empire which now rules [the earth] shall be partitioned. He teaches us what the ten horns shall be which were seen by Daniel, telling us that thus it had been said to him: “And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, who have received no kingdom as yet, but shall receive power as if kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and give their strength and power to the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them, because He is the Lord of lords and the King of kings.”4676 It is manifest, therefore, that of these [potentates], he who is to come shall slay three, and subject the remainder to his power, and that he shall be himself the eighth among them. And they shall lay Babylon waste, and burn her with fire, and shall give their kingdom to the beast, and put the Church to flight. After that they shall be destroyed by the coming of our Lord.

The ink hadn't dried on my comment that you read Irenaeus through the glasses of your presuppositions when you turn around and commit the same error.

But you will never get the poster to acknowledge that there are Church Age saints who are not Tribulation Saints,

Why would I deny that? There have been, are presently, and will be church-age saints who are not tribulation saints for the simple fact they will have died before the Tribulation. Though it's also true that there will be (earthly) saints in the Tribulation era because the church will still be present on earth then. You should read the Church Fathers. Those speaking to the point uniformly affirm this.

nor will you get the poster to acknowledge that he has made an error due to incorrect assignation of Matthew and Mark ...

The error here is your failure to note that I haven't even discussed Matthew or Mark on this topic.

I chose to not discuss these issues with him/her further because there is an ego problem hindering reasonable discussion.

Translation: "He's killing my argument at every turn, so the best I can do is kibbitz about him to other posters."

510 posted on 05/26/2016 2:38:22 PM PDT by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook

By what other names do you post at FR?


511 posted on 05/26/2016 2:43:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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