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To: daniel1212
You offered, "... and go on with Him to the battle of Armageddon." Um, that is not what JESUS told His disciples in the Upper Room Discourse. He told them He was going to prepare a place fro them and that He would return to take them to Himself, back to the Father's House to be with Him THERE. Then, at the end of the seven years of Tribulation for the testing of those left upon the earth, We Who have been with Him in HEAVEN return with Him as seen by Jude.

The blood of Christ has cleansed AAALL those born from above, so they have passed from condemnation unto life and are not standing for Judgment at the Great White Throne. These redeemed return with Jesus to the Earth at the end of the Tribulation. They left when the Church Age ended just before the seventieth week of Daniel.

163 posted on 05/21/2016 6:59:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN
You offered, "... and go on with Him to the battle of Armageddon." Um, that is not what JESUS told His disciples in the Upper Room Discourse. He told them He was going to prepare a place fro them and that He would return to take them to Himself, back to the Father's House to be with Him THERE. We Who have been with Him in HEAVEN return with Him as seen by Jude. These redeemed return with Jesus to the Earth at the end of the Tribulation. They left when the Church Age ended just before the seventieth week of Daniel.

Apart from the rapture occurring 7 years previous, we both agree. But the Lord's words in Jn. 14:1-3 do not state an immediate entrance into the many dwelling places, but that the believers will henceforth be with the Lord: "that where I am, there ye may be also." (cf. 1Thes. 4:17) Whatever the many dwelling places actually entails, it would seem to be part of the rewards which would be after the judgment seat of Christ, the first resurrection.

I am fine with the rapture occurring pre trib, but see it as being the resurrection at the end of the trib. as best conforming to Mt. 24. But i do not get into precise eschatology too dogmatically.

188 posted on 05/21/2016 8:19:23 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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