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To: MHGinTN
What JD offered is not distortion. It may be hard to understand, but it is backed up by numerous scriptural references which are enlightening.

I am not looking to get into a protracted discussion about the end times, but all he offered was his opinions on the meaning of various scriptures. As soon as he started talking about the pretrib rapture and multiple second comings I knew he was way off base.

If you want to start a separate thread on the topic great more power to you, but I will not be discussing it further on this thread.

412 posted on 05/02/2016 5:27:22 PM PDT by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: verga; Mark17; Springfield Reformer; imardmd1; daniel1212; metmom; HossB86; Iscool; caww
You offered this opinion: "As soon as he started talking about the pretrib rapture and multiple second comings I knew he was way off base." In the video he is very clear that the Rapture is not a second coming. The second coming of Messiah will be Jesus setting foot tot he Earth, AFTER it has been purged by the wrath God pours out leading up to the Return of Messiah, with His Bride.

The Age which ends with the Rapture is the Age of the Church, in which there is no differentiation between Jew and Gentiles. Peter used the keys to he kingdom to open it to all (The Day of Pentecost and the House of Cornelius).

The seven years of Tribulation are not about the Church Age. It is all about Israel. The evangelizing of the remaining world after the Rapture takes the Bride away to the Father's House (John 14 Discourse) will be done by Jews. At the end, the Trumpet sounds to Angels to gather the elect. To start the Rapture the Trumpet of GOD sounds to alert the Bride to the waiting Bridegroom Who has come from Heaven to the heavens above the Earth, to call out the Bride to go back to the Father's House in Heaven (beginning of Rev 4). Then the events of Rev 4&5 are occurring in Heaven. Then from Rev 6 to Rev 19, the events are focused upon the Earth dwellers left behind of the Rapture. The Church Age ends with the 'Come up hither' (Rev 4:1)

The Revelation of John is chapter one, the past; Chapters 2 & 3; 'the present' / the Church Age; Chapters 4 to the end the future. The 'present' ends with the snatching away of the Ekklesia.

May I ask of you whose opinion is it that the Rapture is at the end of the Tribulation? Did you come to that conclusion on your own, or is it teaching you've had on the Revelation of John, 1Thess 4:13-18, 1Cor 15:51-56, John 14, and 1Thess 1:10?

413 posted on 05/02/2016 6:21:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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