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In Bitter, Bizarre First Post "Love" Homily, Pope Lashes Out at Critics, Calls Judas...
Mahound's Paradise ^ | 4/11/16 | Oakes Spalding

Posted on 04/12/2016 9:24:56 AM PDT by BlatherNaut

"In Bitter, Bizarre First Post "Love" Homily, Pope Lashes Out at Critics, Calls Judas "This Poor Repentant Man," Blames Jewish Priests for Judas' Death (They Were Bad Confessors and had No Mercy)The Pope appears to be growing increasingly unhinged."

Is the aggressive crazy talk a response to perceived opposition or a post Amoris victory lap?

Vatican Radio reports on today's homily at Santa Marta. The first part deals not with Judas but with those who clutch to "the letter" of the law. It is impossible to believe that Francis is not referring to opponents of the "pastoral solutions" proposed in Amoris Laetitia: Pope Francis on Monday spoke of the importance of taking stock of what is in people’s hearts and lives instead of only taking the law into account. ...the Pope spoke of the Doctors of the Law whom – he said - passed judgment with their hearts closed to God and to prophecy; all that mattered to them – he explained – was to uphold the Law. Pope Francis was reflecting on the Reading from the Acts of the Apostles in which the Doctors of the Law accuse Stephen of speaking “blasphemous words against Moses and God” because they “could not withstand the wisdom and the Spirit with which he spoke.” They even instigated false witnesses to uphold their claims, he said. “Their hearts, closed to God’s truth, clutch only at the truth of the Law, taking it by ‘the letter’, and do not find outlets other than in lies, false witness and death” he said. Then Francis presented a novel theory on Judas. As far as I know, no one ever in the history of the world has ever directly blamed the Jewish chief priests for Judas' suicide: Pope Francis said: "It hurts when I read that small passage from the Gospel of Matthew, when Judas, who has repented, goes to the priests and says: ‘I have sinned' and wants to give ... and gives them the coins. ‘Who cares! - they say to him: it’s none of our business!’ They closed their hearts before this poor, repentant man, who did not know what to do. And he went and hanged himself. And what did they do when Judas hanged himself? They spoke amongst themselves and said: 'Is he a poor man? No! These coins are the price of blood, they must not enter the temple... and they referred to this rule and to that… The doctors of the letter. " The life of a person did not matter to them, the Pope observed, they did not care about Judas’ repentance. The Gospel, he continued, says that Judas came back repentant. But all that mattered to them “were the laws, so many words and things they had built”. Francis appears to be arguing that Judas' return to the priests was tantamount to trying to make a confession to them. But the priests were bad confessors and rejected him. No doubt they lacked mercy.

This is of course demented.

It is tedious to observe that: The Jewish priests (being Jewish priests) had no power to forgive sins in that sense. Neither Judas nor the priests believed they had such a power. In any case, while looking down at Judas for being sort of a rat, the priests obviously wouldn't think that acting against Jesus was a sin per se. Most Biblical commentators attach significance to the particular Greek word used for "repentance" in this passage as opposed other passages. The common understanding is that his repentance was more akin to "I'm sorry I find myself in this position now" rather than "I'm truly sorry that I betrayed my Master and friend." This is reinforced by the fact that Judas did not try to save Jesus or go back to the other apostles in order to reconcile with them, etc. Rather, he killed himself. Perhaps Francis believes in what some have called the "blood libel."

But concerning Judas not Jesus.

Interestingly, he concluded the homily by repeating a sort of anti-Catholic blood libel--that the Church has a long history of burning dissidents and so on: "History tells us of many people who were judged and killed, although they were innocent: judged according to the Word of God, against the Word of God. Let’s think of witch hunts or of St. Joan of Arc, and of many others who were burnt to death, condemned because according to the judges they were not in line with the Word of God” he said. The above isn't Catholic. It's anti-Catholic.

Enough.

Who will stand up to it?


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: epa; francis; globalwarminghoax; homily; judas; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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To: BlatherNaut

I’ve often thought that it’s a lot harder to believe in Papal infallibility during the rule of a bad pope.

And yes, I know that this technically does not come under the letter of the law on infallibility, but it certainly comes under the spirit.

(See what I did there?)


21 posted on 04/12/2016 11:21:11 AM PDT by Terabitten (Time for the GOPe to reap the whirlwind.)
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To: BlatherNaut

I am beginning to wonder if this guy has some skeletons in his closet he is keeping secret


22 posted on 04/12/2016 11:21:44 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Obadiah

are you catholic?


23 posted on 04/12/2016 11:44:18 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Obadiah
The Pope seems to strongly imply that the Jewish priests were legitimate.

And casts Judas Iscariot in a sympathetic light (as did Josef Goebbels in one of his plays, IIRC).

Wow, if that’s what he’s saying then it shows a stark and frightening misunderstanding of the Scriptures.

Or a deliberate misrepresentation.

24 posted on 04/12/2016 11:48:16 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: wafflehouse

Perhaps more than this Pope.

In all candor, I am not anything. I do have a relationship with the Creator.


25 posted on 04/12/2016 11:53:36 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: livius
I agree that here’s something wrong with the man, possibly dementia. What he says makes no sense, and he is also known to fly into rages.

That said, I think his intention all along was to destroy the Chuch of Christ and build one in his own image. Even when he was a little more sane, he seemed to regard himself as a prophet who was bringing a new message to the world...

Organic roots, or perhaps spiritual?

"...What is a curse? According to Spain’s experienced exorcist, Fr. Jose Fortea, “A curse is an action that is done to harm another with the help of demons. There are specific curses to kill, to cause one to be possessed, to make things go bad in business, and to make someone sick, etc. …Curses are effective only if God allows them to have effect. The more one prays the more one will be protected against these things.” The curse is very simply the absence of God or the corruption of creation. “Corruption of procreation” defines a curse in its most operative simple form. Curses are the absence of God. To the degree God is absent is equal to the affliction of the curse. (Pope Leo XIII Institute)..."

Blessing or Curse?

26 posted on 04/12/2016 12:09:35 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

That is a very good point.


27 posted on 04/12/2016 12:12:10 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: taterjay

Well said.


28 posted on 04/12/2016 12:30:54 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: livius; BlatherNaut

This man does not have dementia. He is a Modernist. I really wish we’d stop offering excuses for his evil ways.


29 posted on 04/12/2016 12:52:10 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: BlatherNaut

“Enough. Who will stand up to it?”

Cleary not the so-called “conservative” Burke:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3419846/posts


30 posted on 04/12/2016 12:54:16 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: BlatherNaut

“Interestingly, he concluded the homily by repeating a sort of anti-Catholic blood libel—that the Church has a long history of burning dissidents and so on”

LOL, this is blood libel??? First of all, Francis didn’t say the Catholic church did this, just that it happened, and that the perpetrators claimed a motivation from the Bible, which is absolutely true. Secondly, even if the Catholic church wasn’t lighting the bonfires under witches themselves, they certainly participated willingly in the process and never used their considerable power and influence to stop it.


31 posted on 04/12/2016 1:04:33 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: piusv
Cleary not the so-called “conservative” Burke

Disappointing, but not surprising.

32 posted on 04/12/2016 1:05:49 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: chae

Catholic apologists often get quite twisted in circles over the witch trials and the inquisition. They think that because secular authorities (acting with the blessing of the Popes and the church) handed down the actual sentences, that they can wash their hands of any responsibility, and then seem flummoxed that nobody else accepts that excuse.


33 posted on 04/12/2016 1:07:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BlatherNaut

I’m not surprised. In fact I don’t expect any Novus Ordo bishop to stand up for the truth. THAT would be a surprise.


34 posted on 04/12/2016 1:14:27 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: Boogieman
the witch trials

Witch trials were much more popular in Protestant northern Europe (and Protestant Massachusetts!) than in Catholic countries.

35 posted on 04/12/2016 2:03:47 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: Campion

“Witch trials were much more popular in Protestant northern Europe (and Protestant Massachusetts!) than in Catholic countries.”

Only because in the other parts of Europe, they didn’t call them “witch trials”, they just called it the Inquisition. Whatever they called it, executing people for “thought crime” was popular all over Europe during that era.


36 posted on 04/13/2016 7:33:28 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
"Witch trials" specifically involved accusations of witchcraft. The Spanish Inquisition actually threw many of those out of court, because they concluded they were just personal vendettas of one kind or another.

Whatever they called it, executing people for “thought crime” was popular all over Europe during that era.

That's been popular during most of human history in most places, and I wouldn't assume that we "enlightened" folks are immune to it.

37 posted on 04/13/2016 10:21:40 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: BlatherNaut

The Bible calls Judas the “son of perdition”, predestined to destruction in accordance with prophecy.


38 posted on 04/14/2016 10:22:29 AM PDT by Alt Right (Newt 2012 is now Romney 2012, making Obama a one term President.)
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To: Obadiah
The Pope seems to strongly imply that the Jewish priests were legitimate.

it would be against scripture to say they were NOT legitimate.

Is the Pope actually suggesting these “priests” were legit and could have moved Judas to repentance?

this is a non sequitur, Levitical Priests are not catholic priests.


39 posted on 04/15/2016 10:44:24 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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