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To: angryoldfatman

I am not an anthropomorphic god believer nor am I a believer even in a higher power when it comes to gods. An all powerful deity may exist or not but if it did exist it could only be a pale shadow of a shadow in concept to the mind, and certainly not concerned with what we do let alone to be forced worship it by threat of eternal torment in fire.
And all one needs to do to escape that is eat Jesus like a cannibal and drink his blood and then wear a Jesus-skin suit so you can get to heaven, a place you also must first admit you do not deserve to go to and then confess it good. That’s totally insane.

To claim any knowledge of a god if it did exist would be disrespectful to it and is very irreverent forcing its concept down to our level of comprehension, much like the ancient superstitious goat herders that thought the world was flat and the stars are holes in the tent of night and that the earth was the center of the universe that wrote Genesis and the rest of the books did.


65 posted on 03/20/2016 3:54:54 PM PDT by HWGruene (REMEMBER THE ALAMO! Really, no kidding.)
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To: HWGruene

First off, addressing your stereotypes of me:

I do not believe in some cartoon God with a beard and sitting on clouds. My belief or non-belief in such has nothing to do with morality.

I am not a Catholic and do not believe in transsubstantiation. My belief or non-belief in such has nothing to do with morality.

I realize that I am in the minority as an annihilationist, so I don’t believe in a burning hell, since that would be a form of everlasting existence, and Scripture is unclear on this.

John 3:16, which is the “mission statement” of Christianity, supports my view, while there are other passages that Christians have quoted to me that suggest otherwise. Given my simplistic view of fairness, I agree with you about the absurdity of eternal pain for a finite amount of wrongdoing.

My belief or non-belief in such has nothing to do with morality per se.

To shorten this up, nothing you wrote is relevant.

You arguments do not address the fact that if there is no higher authority than mankind, then morality is an invention of mankind’s and is subject to the 3 bases I mentioned in my first post on this thread. Basis 2 is the main one addressed by the OP.

Do you deny this?


68 posted on 03/20/2016 4:47:29 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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