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To: angryoldfatman

Which higher authority? Zeus or Chronos? Odin? Allah? HaShem? Brahma?
To praise/blame a higher authority is democrat-like. They love being absolved of all responsibility for their own personal actions or lack thereof.


44 posted on 03/19/2016 8:51:11 PM PDT by HWGruene (REMEMBER THE ALAMO! Really, no kidding.)
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To: HWGruene; daniel1212

Which higher authority? Zeus or Chronos? Odin? Allah? HaShem? Brahma?

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Some of these have worked at least temporarily in escaping the trap of the 3 bases.

Strictly humanistic views, where mankind is the pinnacle of authority, cannot escape this trap.

Most atheists I converse with like Basis 2, since that is superficially how modern Western societies work. The problem with it is exactly what Brendan Eich encountered. Also, it slides into basis 3 entirely too easily.

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To praise/blame a higher authority is democrat-like. They love being absolved of all responsibility for their own personal actions or lack thereof.

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I’m guessing you mean “Democratic party” for “democrat”, and I assume the rest of your post quoted here refers to the Christian doctrine of salvation and forgiveness.

If anything, the Democrats have demonstrated an affinity for all 3 bases, and have no compunction with basis 1 unlike almost all Christians and practicing Jews.

As for absolution, Christians (if they have been educated in their own theology sufficiently) accept temporal punishment for wrongdoing. They also understand that they need forgiveness from God for their wrongdoing to receive any reward in the afterlife, no matter how good they think they are, because they all fall short of the perfection demanded by God.

This is the opposite of what you have stated. Christian morality does not absolve any follower of his or her duties here on Earth.

Now, why aren’t you concerned with any of the other “higher authorities” you mentioned?

Also, I noticed you registered just a few weeks ago. Did you do that just to argue about religion with us rightwingnuts?


64 posted on 03/20/2016 12:18:44 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: HWGruene; angryoldfatman
To praise/blame a higher authority is democrat-like. They love being absolved of all responsibility for their own personal actions or lack thereof.

True, and selfishly seek such and power, as does the devil, and which presumes they are perfect, omniscient, etc., but which does not invalidate the principle of praise and the fact that souls will worship/live for/trust in something greater than themselves.

What if it is right and good to praise what is superior, and as one that demonstrably is, you selflessly call lesser beings to look to you, as that is what is right and best for them, versus relying on and emulating lesser beings? And that their choice regarding this reveals what they truly esteem?

Concerning the God of the Bible, do you think He has an ego and or a moral issue, like typical militant atheists allege in their superior omniscient moral reasoning?

And that He supports demonic democrat-like premise of unwarranted devotion, powers and position?

66 posted on 03/20/2016 4:40:44 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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