Posted on 03/17/2016 7:49:46 AM PDT by ebb tide
Rome has found a name for a new Square in the heart of the city, an open space in the middle of a leafy garden park in a choice area near the Coliseum: Martin Luther Square.
Almost 500 years after Augustinian monk Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door of the Cathedral of Wittenberg, Swabia (October 1517), and 494 years after the bull of excommunication issued by Pope Leo X ("Decet Romanum Pontificem", January 1521), the city of Rome has honored the man who sparked the Protestant Reformation, a movement premised on what Luther condemned in that very city, the headquarters of the Catholic Church.
The nameplate Martin Luther German Theologian (1483-1546) is assigned to an area laden with history: nearby are Emperor Nero's Domus Aurea and the boulevard named after the Greek-Egyptian goddess Serapide. The square was officially inaugurated on Wednesday, September 16 of last year.
The decision came six years after an official request was advanced by the Union of Seventh Day Adventist Churches and the Union of the Lutheran Evangelical Churches in Italy.
While no official comment was issued by the Vatican, Lutheran circles have understandably been all abuzz. I'm very pleased that our request has come true before the anniversary of the Reform in 2017, said Pastor Heiner Bludau, senior pastor of the Lutheran Evangelical Church in Italy:
When we researched [in 2010] the meaning of Martin Luther's visit to Rome we saw that his stay was clearly a part of the history of the Reformation and therefore of the history of Europe. So to dedicate a square in Rome to the great reformer is a highly symbolic and momentous step; in the light of world history it is a step that reflects the level reached by the process of European unification. On both counts I am extremely grateful.
The news, however, barely registered on the press radar, not only because Italy is grappling with engrossing social and economic troubles, but also because the revival of the memory and cult of Martin Luther has become almost normal fare now, both in secular and ecclesiastical circles.
In secular circles it has been powered in part by Germany's effort to unify the separate cultures which were shaped in the formerly partitioned East and West sides of the country, quietly renewing pride in a common national history so as to get over the countrys guilt complex for the World Wars and the Holocaust, so often mentioned in post-war German education.
The endeavor to get past the memories of the twentieth century, not to mention the economic morass inherited from East Germany in the 1990s, has been so successful that Germany today enjoys a hegemony over the European Union. (Germany trails only the U.S. and the U.K. on the Elcano Global Presence Report 2015.) This is the case not just from an economic point of view but also a renewed admiration for the countrys apparent efficiency, moral rigor and hard work.
The process can be illustrated by the success among children and families of the plastic toy Luthers recently marketed by Playmobil, which is the fastest-selling Playmobil figure in the companys history. Related toy replicas have also been popular, including one of Wittenberg Cathedral, one of the castle of Warburg, and one of Luthers wife, Katharina von Bora, the ex-Cistercian nun he married in 1525, which are sold as specially numbered collector's items.
Gemany's Catholic authorities also had a part in the revival and unprecedented universality of respect for the father of Protestant Christianity. In January 2015, the Archbishop of Munich, Cardinal Reinhard MarxPresident of the German Bishops Conference and coordinator of Pope Francis's Board of Economic Advisorssummed up Martin Luthers long march through the institutions of ecumenism in Politik & Kultur: Now having completed fifty years of dialogue, a Catholic Christian, too, may respectfully read the texts penned by Luther and benefit from his ideas. The same acceptance has been variously expressed by Cardinal Walter Kasper, German Swiss Cardinal Kurt Koch, and Fr. Hans Kung. In his 2008 publication Night-time Conversations in Jerusalem, written in German, Jesuit Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini praised Luther as having somehow inspired the changes that came after Vatican Council II, thereby effectively recasting as the greatest of reformers he who had previously been seen as the prototypical excommunicated heretic.
Last November, Pope Francis caused a stir when, in the words of Vatican reporter Edward Pentin, he appeared to suggest that a Lutheran wife of a Catholic husband could receive holy Communion based on the fact that she is baptized and in accordance with her conscience. Pentin reported a month later that Pastor Jens Kruse of Romes Evangelical Lutheran Church said he believes Pope Francis opened the door to intercommunion when the Holy Father spoke to his church last month, and that his parishioners generally have the same opinion. When asked if he interpreted the Popes remarks as allowing Lutherans to receive holy Communion, leaving it up to their conscience?, Kruse replied in the affirmative:
The Pope said thats a question each person has to decide for himself. I think its typical for Pope Francis to open doors, and now we, as churches, have the duty to find ways to fill this open door with more of a life of ecumenism, of unity. The image of an open door is, I think, a very good one because we are in front of this door at this moment and now we have to find ways to go through this open door.
Following the November 2015 event, Cardinal Robert Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, told Aleteia.org, Intercommunion is not permitted between Catholics and non-Catholics. You must confess the Catholic Faith. A non-Catholic cannot receive Communion. That is very, very clear. Its not a matter of following your conscience. In order to receive Holy Communion, Cardinal Sarah emphasized, I need to be in the state of grace, without sin, and have the faith of the Catholic Church. Its not a personal desire or a personal dialogue with Jesus that determines if I can receive Communion in the Catholic Church.
Prior to his pontficate, Josef Cardinal Ratzinger invited the faithful to reflect very seriously on Luther's message and save the great things in his theology. But he did so without blurring the lines that define the radical change that Luther brought about in the relationship between the Church and the individual, between the Church and the Bible, which to this day prevents Catholics and Protestants from sharing the certainty that recognizes in the Church a common conscience which is greater than private intelligence and interpretations.
On his trip to Germany, less than a year and a half before abdicating, Pope Benedict XVI stopped at Erfurt, where Luther studied theology and celebrated his first Mass. In the talk given on that occasion, Benedict dwelled on the importance attributed by Luther to the issue of sin, a particularly significant facet of Luthers teaching in the light of the current emphasis on mercy that often seems to downplay the reality of sin and the real possibility of judgment. Benedict stated:
How do I receive the grace of God? The fact that this question was the driving force of his whole life never ceases to make a deep impression on me. For who is actually concerned about this today even among Christians? What does the question of God mean in our lives? In our preaching? Most people today, even Christians, set out from the presupposition that God is not fundamentally interested in our sins and virtues. He knows that we are all mere flesh. And insofar as people believe in an afterlife and a divine judgement at all, nearly everyone presumes for all practical purposes that God is bound to be magnanimous and that ultimately he mercifully overlooks our small failings. The question no longer troubles us.
In January, it was announced that Francis plans to travel to Sweden in October of this year for a joint ecumenical commemoration of the start of the Reformation, together with leaders of the Lutheran World Federation and representatives of other Christian Churches. The event will be the start of events marking the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation; it will also highlight the important ecumenical developments that have taken place during the past 50 years of dialogue between Catholics and Lutherans.
I hope, however, that the warmth to Luthers ideas will not go even further and fashion the formerly excommunicated heretic into a hero and a saint, whitewashing history until even actual events lose all meaning. For the former Augustinian monk was as much a man of the flesh and of turbulent spirits as Pope Alexander VI (1492-1503), whose sins we are in no danger of being allowed to forget.
If there is a reciprocal owning up of mistakes all around, on the part of the Protestants this might include, for example, a formal disowning of Luther's most virulent invectives, such as the ones against the Jews, contained in Luthers 1543 book On the Jews and Their Lies, and the ones in his Admonition to Peace. In the latter, with regard to The Twelve Articles of the Christian Union of Upper Swabia (April 1525), Luther pleaded with the German nobility to suppress all the murderous and thieving hordes of peasants in the following terms:
What reason be there for leniency with the peasants? If there be any innocents among them, God will know how to best defend and rescue them. If God doesn't rescue them, then that means they are criminals. I think it's best for God to kill farmers rather than princes and judges, as the peasants have no Divine authority on which to base their wielding of the sword. No mercy, no patience towards the peasants, only wrath and indignation, from God and from man. This moment is so exceptional that a prince can earn heaven through bloodshed. Therefore, dear gentlemen, go ahead and exterminate, slay, strangle, and may whoever has power, use it.
Ironically, it was reported that at the September 2015 event in Rome, Michael Kretschmer, representative of the Bundestag (the national Parliament of the Federal Republic of Germany), remembered the sensitivity of the father of the Reformation for the last (of the world). If he were here today, he would tell us to take care of the poor, he said. Meanwhile, the mayor of Rome, Ignazio Marino, stated: Today gesture means that Rome has to respect every religion and faith. It is easier to smash an atom than a prejudice, Einstein said. And here we have broken some prejudices. By all means, lets welcome the ridding of wrong prejudices, but lets not reject a prejudice for the truth.
Courtesy ping as we're discussing metmom.
So your final judgement has already come and gone?
My mistake. I forgot to cc her.
So your final judgement has already come and gone?For the believer in Christ...yes.
16For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18
24Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:40
not a problem. the conversation moves fast sometimes.
Do you take Christ at His word?
16For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18
24Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:40
I'll step in if metmom doesn't mind.
The believer has been identified with Christ's death on the cross and burial and resurrection. He is now sealed by the Holy Spirit as a down payment for the rest that is to come. His fate is decided through no merit of his or her own.
What remains is the bema seat judgment, where the quality of a believers works on earth will be tested "as though through fire." What is revealed as gold, silver and precious gems will determine the believers rewards in heaven. Even if he or she has squandered their lives and everything is burned up, they themselves will be saved.
Go right ahead. You protestants seem to be stepping all over each other. How many denominations are y'all up to now?
Yes, Bro, so much of that context in the past, but in this, this the sweetness is that once taken away, it is never, ever to return.
Thanks for standing in the gap, making up the hedge, by the authority of the Master who seeks such.
Good to see you too. I’ve been involved in the political debates here, so spending less time on the religion forum. Also I’m getting some forward movement on my book project. Christian fiction, a somewhat plausible time-travel story that explores some themes that have been discussed on these very pages. My granddaughter wants me to make a movie out of it. I can dream. :)
Peace,
SR
Only a RC could so describe a man who was so intent on crucifying his flesh that he engaged in extreme fasting, self-flagellation, and staying in the freezing cold, and later, despite intended continued celibacy, married a devoted women to whom he was faithful to, and together bore six children and raised four orphans, none of which (TMK) were known to scandalize the church. But perhaps due to giving uncritical credence to RC charges, besides actual coarse language and invectives describe him "as much a man of the flesh...as much as Pope Alexander VI. Who,
As vice chancellor of the Roman Catholic church, Rodrigo amassed enormous wealth and, despite a severe rebuke from Pope Pius II, lived as a Renaissance prince. He patronized the arts and fathered a number of children for whom he provided livings, mainly in Spain. By a Roman noblewoman, Vannozza Catanei, he had four subsequently legitimized offspring—Juan, Cesare, Jofré, and Lucrezia—whose complicated careers troubled his pontificate...
Despite the shadow of simony that surrounded the disposal of his benefices among the papal electors, Rodrigo emerged from a tumultuous conclave on the night of Aug. 10–11, 1492, as Pope Alexander VI...
Attempts to whitewash Alexander’s private conduct have proved abortive. While his religious convictions cannot be challenged, scandal accompanied his activities throughout his career. Even from a Renaissance viewpoint, his relentless pursuit of political goals and unremitting efforts to aggrandize his family were seen as excessive. - http://www.britannica.com/biography/Alexander-VI
Of course I hear His Word. And I wish you would hear all of His words, not just a select few.
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18
But you have said a church is not necessary. Seems like you have a problem with Jesus.
See, that right there is mindreading. When I was a very young man, I wondered if there was a way to really do that. I have since learned God knows people much better than I do, and my guesses often prove wrong. In a spirit of charity I now usually try to suppose the best motives, rather than the worst, and very often I am right.
Peace,
SR
And yet more exhibit of this demonic conflation blinding catholic minds ...
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
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Nor of being alive in Christ?
Let's stay on topic.
Do you believe this statement of Christ?
24Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:40
Amen.
I remember when my burdens rolled away;
I had carried them for years, night and day.
When I sought the blessed Lord,
And I took Him at His word,
Then at once all my burdens rolled away.
Rolled away, rolled away,
I am happy since my burdens rolled away.
Rolled away, rolled away,
I am happy since my burdens rolled away.
I remember when my burdens rolled away;
That I feared would never leave, night or day.
Jesus showed to me the loss,
So I left them at the cross;
I was glad when my burdens rolled away.
I remember when my burdens rolled away,
That had hindered me for years, night and day.
As I sought the throne of grace,
Just a glimpse of Jesus face,
And I knew that my burdens could not stay.
I am singing since my burdens rolled away;
Theres a song within my heart night and day.
I am living for my King,
And with joy I shout and sing:
Hallelujah, all my burdens rolled away!
From here: https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/h/8243
Peace,
SR
“How many denominations are you up to now?”
I’ll thank you to refer to them as Protestant Rites. Other than those dead churches we cut off from fellowship, we agree on the core doctrines of our faith.
I would point out that the Catholic denomination appears to be filled with a membership, each of who decides what to believe from the Catholic Buffet... Apparently, this includes your pope!
Best!
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