Why would Jesus need to name a different ‘responsible’ person to take care of Mary if she had other children? Why would their abandoning Him, if not her, require this? And how do you know they abandoned Him? Why would God choose to be born into a family where His siblings would do that? Where is all of this information found in scripture?
I stated in my post that I do not believe that sex between Mary and Joseph would have been a sin, and I do not believe I am in a frenzy. I simply believe that Mary and Joseph would have chosen to remain celibate out of respect to Mary’s role as a living tabernacle whose body held the body of Jesus. It is clear that the biblical use of the words brother and brethren are not exclusive to blood relatives, even by Jesus Himself, so I see no contradictions to this belief in my interpretation of scripture.
There are others here who insist that a celibate lifestyle within marriage would be by definition sinful, and that if it happened between Mary and Joseph it was by Mary depriving Joseph of sex against his wishes. I do not believe that. Why do you think Joseph and Mary did not have sex while she was pregnant?
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FALSE assumption that Jesus "needed" to do it.
I simply believe that Mary and Joseph would have chosen to remain celibate out of respect to Mary’s role as a living tabernacle whose body held the body of Jesus.
Nothing wrong with holding a personal opinion. Just recognize it is not based on Scripture.There are others here who insist that a celibate lifestyle within marriage would be by definition sinful, and that if it happened between Mary and Joseph it was by Mary depriving Joseph of sex against his wishes. I do not believe that.
Christians have a high regard for blessed Mary. We believe she would have been obedient to the desires and commands of God.
22 The scribes who had come down from Jerusalem kept repeating, “He has Beelzebul,” and, “He drives out demons by the ruler of demons.”
23 So Jesus called them together and began to speak to them in parables. ...
31 Then his mother and his brothers arrived. Milling around outside, they sent for him, continuously summoning him. 32 A crowd was sitting around him. They told him, “Look! Your mother and your brothers are outside asking for you.” 33 He answered them, “Who are my mother and my brothers?” 34 Then looking at the people sitting around him, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 Whoever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother.”
Why forego sex just because she carried Jesus?
Does that make them more holy or something.
Again, it gets back to the idea that sex is somehow wrong, or sinful or degrading.: How the heck is celibacy more honoring than a normal husband/wife sexual relationship that GOD ordained?
Because prophecy that a virgin shall conceive and bear a son had to have been fulfilled.
After that prophecy was fulfilled, her virginity was of no consequence.
See John 7:5 below.
Why would their abandoning Him, if not her, require this? Scripture does not answer this. It would stand to reason though that Jesus wanted His mom with a like minded believer.
And how do you know they abandoned Him?
Abandoned is not the right term...denied Him initially.
Why would God choose to be born into a family where His siblings would do that?
He was born into a world where a lot of people rejected Him. Not just His family.
Where is all of this information found in scripture?
5 For not even His brothers were believing in Him. John 7:5
Therein lies the problem. Try the Holy Spirit's interpretation.
Joseph did as the angel instructed him, took her as his wife and kept her a virgin until Jesus was born. (Matt 1:18-25)
The normal reading of the text regarding "kept her a virgin until Jesus was born" if read normally tells the reader they did not have sex until after He was born.