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To: Phinneous

**Just to follow the G-d of Israel. (including shunning any notion of a trinity.)**

So when the Messiah does come, with your understanding of the scriptures, how is he viewed, simply another messenger of God, or the power of God made visible (in the form of a man) to man? Just asking.

I believe that God the Father has appeared to man in various fashions, and spoken also through his prophets. Yet, he promised through Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah, ect. that he would appear to them in the form of a man.

The ‘form’ is not God, because God is invisible, but the Almighty God in the ‘form’ IS God. And the God of creation has chosen to put all power in this ‘form’, making him the focal point of a world that lives in a material and visible landscape. This ‘form’ has a mind and soul like any other man, as the prophets plainly describe, yet is completely filled with the invisible God. I believe that Jesus Christ is that ‘form’.


41 posted on 01/28/2016 10:16:42 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel; Read Write Repeat; familyop; Phinneous; Zionist Conspirator; Boogieman

It’s a fundamental difference. Jews believe that the Messiah is a man (interestingly he may not even know he’s destined to be the Messiah...) who is chosen/made to know that he is the Messiah, and fulfills certain objective accomplishments:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1188356/jewish/Melachim-uMilchamot-Chapter-11.htm

RWR— You mentioned that “Noahide is a Chassidic invention...” If you meant the modern emphasis of non-Jews fulfilling the seven (overarching) principles, then fine... but just to be clear, Maimonides codified the laws for non-Jews already a thousand years ago. From the same chapter in his opus of Jewish law:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1188354/jewish/Melachim-uMilchamot-Chapter-9.htm

(Fear not my goyishe friends— when Maimonides mentions executing gentiles, he only means when the full Jewish court is reestablished. We all have training wheels now...) But the actual law (for Jews) is not to promote these laws when the prevailing non-Jewish world just may kill us for doing so. Think the Dark Ages... BUT that is the blessing of America, anyone from any religion can hop up on a soap box. No trinity! One G-d! Yippee! Go to your local synagogue this Shabbos (Saturday) and you will hear the 10 Commandments read in G-d’s original Hebrew with His own musical cantilations (notes, the unique way of chanting the Written Law.)


42 posted on 01/28/2016 10:48:14 PM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: Zuriel
It depends on the Jewish movement. Messianic Age here on earth is the plain explanation. Everyone's automatically Jewish when that happens, so you will definitely know and there won't be any doubt or debate.

I want to be a part of that, and I want it to happen tomorrow. That's why I advocate reading the Tanakh in Hebrew -- not the KJV Old Testament. :)

You can start here.

45 posted on 01/29/2016 12:13:59 AM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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