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To: Boogieman
If we have free will, we can reject God's love. If we can't reject God's love, then we don't have free will, so we are automata, in which case, we cannot love God, and therefore, we cannot obey His commandments. I hope you can see where the train of your logic is leading...

God's love is greater than YOUR train of logic. Satan rejected God's love temporarily, not forever. The proper logic is to start with the absolute power of God's love and work from there. Anything else is anathema. God's love is either all powerful, because it IS God, or it's not. There's no third way. And succumbing to that infinite love GIVES freedom, it doesn't remove it. Do you worth about your precious free will when it comes to sudden illness, early death, or hardship? No. Then you're all about the "grace of God." But infinite love puts you in jail? LOL!

You need to do some serious contemplation. Sin and hell are mere blips to God. Infinite love is the point, and it goes on forever.

6 posted on 01/21/2016 1:56:24 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

“God’s love is greater than YOUR train of logic.”

Certainly, but that doesn’t negate the fact the the direction of your logic is headed straight for blasphemy and heresy.

“Satan rejected God’s love temporarily, not forever.”

Not according to God’s word:

“10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” Rev. 20:10

The Bible tells us explicitly that Satan will be in hell FOREVER. So do you reject the explicit word of God, in favor or your own fallible human suppositions?

“The proper logic is to start with the absolute power of God’s love and work from there.”

I think it’s more proper to start with the absolute TRUTH of God’s word, and work from there. If we reject that, anything else we build will rest on a foundation of shifting sand.

“Do you worth about your precious free will when it comes to sudden illness, early death, or hardship?”

This doesn’t even make any sense to me. I don’t worry about free will, it’s just a part of the human condition. To deny it is to deny not only the obvious, but also to deny our own ability to satisfy what Christ said was the greatest commandment. That would also make God into some petty tyrant making demands on us that He knew we couldn’t possibly satisfy. You might not realize that your insistence about the irresistable nature of God’s love leads to that consequence, but it surely does.


7 posted on 01/21/2016 2:48:55 PM PST by Boogieman
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