[ealgeone]

Can a woman have a son who is a fireman without being the mother of a fireman?

That is just about the worst attempt at apologetics I think I've seen from catholicism.

[MHGinTN]

Turn it around: can a person be the mother of an individual who existed before the mother was even conceived?

[omegatoo]

Can a woman have a son who is a fireman without being the mother of a fireman?

That is just about the worst attempt at apologetics I think I've seen from catholicism.

That is about the worst attempt at refutation I think I have seen on this forum.

The comparison is exactly logically correct.

How is it not?

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