[HossB86]

Yes there have been. Numerous ones. What makes you think that Jesus was not God? How do you reconcile the necessity for Jesus' death on the cross to be a divine action in order for it to be efficacious?

Christ's death is efficacious. It is a once-and-for-all sacrifice. And leaving it there, it's all good. But tell me: do you see Mary as having any role in providing salvation? In mediating between God and men? In redeeming us?

Hoss

[Syncro]

But tell me: do you see Mary as having any role in providing salvation? In mediating between God and men? In redeeming us?

I've posted links and text that show that more than one Catholic pope has decreed those things true.

Not to mention that salvation can come from Mary, with nary a word about including Jesus.

Now there is your heretical anti Christian bigotry, from the esteemed fathers of the Catholic Church.

“Esteemed,” similar to Bill Clinton being the esteemed respected loved Elder Statesman of the democrats.