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To: ealgeone

Jesus is God. Jesus is one person both God and Man. Jesus has a mother. God has a mother.

Jesus who is Man could die for our sins. God who died for our sins.

If Jesus was only a man and not both God and Man your faith is in vain.

If God can die on the cross, God must be born of a mother.

Also. Motherhood does not diminish Godhood, since no where in the definition of the term does motherhood imply sole pro-generation. That does not even exist in natural reality.


67 posted on 12/31/2015 9:23:12 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard

Does this mean Mary is the mother of the Holy Spirit as well??


68 posted on 12/31/2015 9:27:38 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Bayard
Jesus who is Man could die for our sins. God who died for our sins.

To clarify, Jesus the Son died for our sins.

71 posted on 12/31/2015 9:37:32 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Bayard

It wasn’t God who died on the Cross, but rather Jesus Christ, in His humanity, who was one with God.

If God died on the Cross, it would have been double separation of God from man, rather than double indemnity.

The penalty of sin is death. The spiritual death of Adam in the Garden by Adam’s volition mandates a redemption of that unmerited sin against God, which can only be provided by the Perfect Sacrifice of a human with body, soul, and spirit.

It also requires the propitiation of His Perfect Integrity, which is atoned by the Perfect Blood Sacrifice.

There is another invalid consequence if Mary was perfect as the “Mother of God”. If Mary was without sin and the mother of God who is also Spirit, then her failure to offer her supposed perfect spirit, i.e. her life prior to her son, means she also failed in God’s Plan to provide the sacrifice instead of her Son, hence again a sinful person.

It is more truthful to acknowledge Mary as a human, was blessed in being the physical mother of God the Son, Jesus Christ, who received His perfect human spirit from God the Father via God the Spirit. The mother is not the source of our human spirit.


89 posted on 12/31/2015 11:40:36 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Bayard
Jesus who is Man could die for our sins. God who died for our sins.

Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Jesus doesn't seem to think God died...Jesus commended his spirit to God as he died...So God did not die...How do you explain that???

Or let me guess...You won't even attempt to explain it because it doesn't fit your narrative...

95 posted on 01/01/2016 3:32:33 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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