Posted on 12/31/2015 4:29:48 PM PST by NYer
The reason that the Tomb of Mary cannot be found is...
Acts 1:11 addendum
Ye men and women of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Mary, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen her go into heaven; but ONLY if you pray the Rosary faithfully while wearing your Brown Scapula!
FReally?
Don't you mean:
If Mary isn't the Mother of The SON of God...
FReally?
Don't you mean:
If Mary isn't the Mother of The SON of God...
"This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Matthew 3:13-17
Oh; WAIT!!
Mary had something to do with it as well.
I thought the goalposts were over THERE!
Thanks for the history lesson.
Show me in the Greek where I’m wrong.
If part of the 'letter'; found in Acts chapter fifteen had NOT been lost; then we'd SEE how important BAPTISM is to the salvation process!!!
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses." 6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are." 12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. "Brothers," he said, "listen to me. 14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written: 16 "'After this I will return 19 "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath." The apostles and elders, your brothers, To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia: Greetings. 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul -- 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell. 30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.
Acts 15
The Council at Jerusalem
1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: "Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.
and rebuild David's fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things'
18 things known from long ago. The Council's Letter to Gentile Believers
22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter: Disagreement Between Paul and Barnabas
36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing." 37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.
It appears that it has been lost; TWICE!
Oh well; we still have Paul's complete thoughts on the matter...
1 Corinthians 1:14
I thank God that I didn't baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius...
As always....a little context keeps things in perspective...
And she cried out with a loud voice and said, "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! Luke 1:42
You will see it is not a title as catholics want it to be.
Show me the Greek where you are right.
Read the thread. Already done.
I get that. Jesus was not the result of Mary knowing a man.
Mary is the mother of Jesus, though, right? And He is her son?
I am sure you are familiar with the passage where Jesus says if we cannot acknowledge Him before men then will not acknowledge that one before The Father in Heaven. Baptism is a powerful outward sign that we are depending upon Jesus as our personal Savior. In relying upon Jesus the born from above are connected to the riches of God's Mercy and parenting.
Peace be with you
While Jesus was in her body building His body for life in the air world, she provided the nourishment, oxygen, protection, and waste removal necessary for sustaining the life of the embryonic Jesus.
I personally believe that God brought the baby Jesus from her womb in the same fashion God caused Jesus's body to leave the tomb without rolling away the stone, in the same way Jesus entered a locked and shuttered room without opening a doorway.
The conception (that is implantation in the uterine wall) and gestation was miraculous. There is a little detail which is never discussed, but which came to me as I was preparing a little instructional book on stem cells, cloning, and abortion: it is a medical fact that every female who gestates a child in her body often retains one or more cells made by the new life within her body, there in the uterine walls, for the rest of her life so long as the organ/uterus remains within her. The implications of that are astonishing when you ponder them!
Mary was a human being. As a human being she could not be the progenitor of God. BUT she IS the surrogate Mother of Our Lord and Savior. And one of the great blessings I believe she received for such a beautiful sacrifice she made is that in her body was retained one or more cells of The Lord's process of building His physical body for life in t he air world.
The cells retained in the uterus after birth are not from the body of the child but are from the umbilicus/amniotic sac which was also made by the being who gestated in the womb, the 'connecting cells' which connect the new life to the Mother. But to attribute goddess powers to Mary is not only erroneous without Scriptural support but an insult to a Mother who was only human like you or me during her lifetime on this planet.
Mary was the surrogate Mother of the life The Holy Spirit placed into her womb. She was not the biological Mother, per se, when that meaning involves a gamete from her body contributing half the chromosome complement to the new life.
Thank you, Rich, for the chance to explain these details.
MHGinTN :Being Baptized is a very important sign of having acknowledged Jesus as your Lord and Savior, so much so that you submit to public baptism.Where is the assertion that it is only a sign?CraigEsq: What is the basis for the assertion that it is only a sign that one has acknowledged Jesus as Lord and Savior?
Saying it is a sign is NOT saying it is ONLY a sign.
Where did you see the assertion that you mention?
Again, the undistributed middle seems to be a favorite ...
Yes it does, very deceptive way to twist someone’s words too with assumptions not based on facts contained in the comment(s) being addressed.
MHGinTN :Being Baptized is a very important sign of having acknowledged Jesus as your Lord and Savior, so much so that you submit to public baptism.
CraigEsq: What is the basis for the assertion that it is only a sign that one has acknowledged Jesus as Lord and Savior?
Where is the assertion that it is only a sign?
Saying it is a sign is NOT saying it is ONLY a sign.
Where did you see the assertion that you mention?
Only that you’ve called it a sign several times, and you’ve never called it anything other than a sign. While your assertion that “Saying it is a sign is NOT saying it is ONLY a sign” is logically accurate - you’ve given me nothing (so far) demonstrating that you consider it anything other than just a sign. That’s all.
Well now you know, no more assumptions OK?
Sometimes reading something into a post trumps reading with accurate comprehension. No biggie, happens all the time.
Oh and I pinged MHGinTN for you being as it is proper internet protocol (as well as the polite thing to do) to ping someone when you quote them.
Oh and I pinged MHGinTN for you being as it is proper internet protocol (as well as the polite thing to do) to ping someone when you quote them.
My bad- never actually noticed it wasn’t his post. Which is why I referred to you as him. Sorry about that.
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