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Mary, Mother of God
The Sacred Page ^ | December 29, 2015

Posted on 12/31/2015 4:29:48 PM PST by NYer

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To: terycarl
...the sacrament of Baptism is the Christian rebirth.

HMMMmmm...

Why didn't Rome mention this here??


Acts 15

The Council at Jerusalem
 1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: "Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

 5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses."

 6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

 12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. "Brothers," he said, "listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

 16 "'After this I will return
   and rebuild David's fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
   and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
   even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things;
 18 things known from long ago.[c]

 19 "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."

The Council's Letter to Gentile Believers
 22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul - 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] [d] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.

Disagreement Between Paul and Barnabas
 36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing."  37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.
1,721 posted on 01/09/2016 7:50:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Not true, they just point out where you are in error....

Balderdash!

It's tried but scripture and the Holy Spirit ring true and we get crickets except for petty stuff like your posts.

1,722 posted on 01/09/2016 7:52:45 PM PST by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstable in all his ways-- Holy Bible)
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To: daniel1212
The sin of Onan was quite evident to be selfish disobedience to God.

This might be true; but where is it recorded?

Did GOD tell Juda to tell him?


Juda, therefore said to Onan his son...


IF I live by sticking to the Scriptures...



It appears that Onan died because he dishonored his father's command.

1,723 posted on 01/09/2016 7:57:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Rome says...

...it is interpreted...


1,724 posted on 01/09/2016 7:58:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

No they are not. Sorry.


1,725 posted on 01/09/2016 8:00:25 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: metmom

Still doesn’t support Sola Scriptura
No.matter how many irrelevant passages you quote.


1,726 posted on 01/09/2016 8:01:12 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: Mark17

1,727 posted on 01/09/2016 8:03:36 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Verily; verily...


1,728 posted on 01/09/2016 8:04:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
same penalty. Death. Read James 2 sometime. Doesn't OSAS mean that you can do either without penalty because all sins have already been forgiven???

Doesn't BBTCC mean you can't tell until yer dead if you got SAVED or not?

1,729 posted on 01/09/2016 8:05:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: The Cuban
The Eastern Orthodox differ with Roman Catholicism on these issues:

The Holy Spirit (the filioque)

In EO - The third person of the Trinity, proceeding from the Father alone as in the original Nicene Creed. The Father sends the Spirit at the intercession of the Son. The Son is therefore an agent only in the procession of the Spirit.

In RC - 'When the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, He is not separated from the Father, He is not separated from the Son'.

Mary - Assumption and Immaculate conception of

EO - The Assumption is accepted and it is agreed that Mary experienced physical death, but the Immaculate conception is rejected. Orthodox belief is that the guilt of original sin is not transmitted from one generation to the next, thus obviating the need for Mary to be sinless.

RC - Both are dogmas of the church. The church has not as yet decided whether Mary actually experienced Physical death. The dogma of the Immaculate Conception states that Mary, was at conception 'preserved immaculate from all stain of original sin' and should not be confused with the virgin birth.

Pope - Authority of

EO - As the Bishop of Rome, he has a primacy of honour when Orthodox, not of jurisdiction. At present, his primacy is not effective as the papacy needs to be reformed in accordance with Orthodoxy. His authority is thus no greater or lesser than any of his fellow Bishops in the church.

RC - The Pope is the 'Vicar of Christ' i.e. the visible head of the church on earth and spiritual successor of St. Peter. He has supreme authority (including that over church councils) within Christendom (The Power of the keys).

Pope - Infallibility of

EO - Papal Infallibility is rejected. The Holy Spirit acts to guide the church into truth through (for example) ecumenical councils. This Orthodoxy recognises the first seven ecumenical councils (325-787) as being infallible.

RC - The Pope is infallible when, through the Holy Spirit, he defines a doctrine on faith and morals that is to be held by the whole church. This is a dogma and is therefore a required belief within Catholicism.

Purgatory

EO - An intermediate state between earth and heaven is recognised, but cleansing and purification occur in this life, not the next.

RC - A place of cleansing and preparation for heaven. Also a place where the punishment due to unremitted venial sins may be expiated.

I'd say these were the "biggies", but other differences also exist. These are explained here.

http://christianityinview.com/comparison.html

Not submitting to the Roman pontiff is condemned by your previous popes, therefore the Orthodox, who do not submit to him, are condemned according to Roman Catholicism.

Post 15434 shows the declarations with links to their quotes.

1,730 posted on 01/09/2016 8:06:52 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl
.....Like the Eucharist, for example.....

Keep munchin' and sippin'.

Perhaps YOUR STAY in Purgatory won't be very long.

1,731 posted on 01/09/2016 8:08:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: The Cuban

Which is the greater authority?

Which one gives the other its authority?

The church over Scripture or Scripture over the church?


1,732 posted on 01/09/2016 8:08:35 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: WVKayaker

What does Church Abuse have to do with the title of the Thread.Also Catholics fear Hell.My question is what is so bad about admiring the Blessed Mother. She was pregnant with Jesus who is She the Mother of?


1,733 posted on 01/09/2016 8:09:04 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: terycarl
I know that the Roman Catholic church does not look down on any of the various Catholic branches.

Yeah; it has it's hand's full looking down on the NON-Catholic ones!

1,734 posted on 01/09/2016 8:09:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

BBTCC?

Forgive me. It’s late and I just can’t figure that one out.


1,735 posted on 01/09/2016 8:10:12 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl
No; THIS is the important part.

The THIS is the yearly meal of rememberence they'd been eating for CENTURIES!

Do I have to ping a JEW to explain it to you?

Rome seems to have failed you.

1,736 posted on 01/09/2016 8:11:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fatima; WVKayaker

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>> “who is She the Mother of?” <<

A human mortal boy named Yeshua.


1,737 posted on 01/09/2016 8:11:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Syncro

A millennial beast of a number!


1,738 posted on 01/09/2016 8:13:22 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

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Roman catholics are sungod worshipers.

They celebrate Easter, the fertility goddess, instead of eating the Passover.


1,739 posted on 01/09/2016 8:14:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: The Cuban

So; the bible is insufficient.

I understand you now.


1,740 posted on 01/09/2016 8:14:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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