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1 posted on 12/09/2015 10:22:15 PM PST by hoagy62
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how? well... i believe in tradition.

a broadsword... full plate... a shield... and a strong horse.


50 posted on 12/10/2015 12:24:05 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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52 posted on 12/10/2015 12:30:19 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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We love (AGAPE) our fellow man.

We respect legitimate authority.

Islam rejects both in order to place Islam ahead of all others and the worship of a god who rejects perfect justice to have peace with man.

Any system of worship failing to repect the integrity of God and what He has provided, produces a counterfeit substitute for God’s Plan. Islam counterfeits God with Allah, speaks of Jesus Christ as being a good man, but denies His Deity. If Jesus Christ is not also God the Son, then he wasn’t a good man.

Jesus Christ also provided the Perfect Sacrifice to God the Father to allow man to return to God based upon both perfect righteousness of God and His Plan, as well as accepting God’s Perfect Justice in His condemnation of sin.

Jesus Christ also in His humanity, was resurrected, and later ascended to heaven as was witnessed and recorded by all of Creation. Islam fails to address these facts and ignores them.

Believers in God have faith through Christ and love our fellow man as our brethern, so don’t want to see them condemned to the Lake of Fire, but want to witness to them about the good news of what Christ provided at the Cross.

We also know that placing pearls before swine will likely incite them to hate us more than to come to Christ.

Muslims lead soulish lives, without regenerated human spirits. The same happened to all Christians prior to their faith in Christ. So we don’t hate them as our feloow man, but we do hate their slander, murder, liars, and promotion of anything false when truth is made available to them.

When Muslims take action against our God given rights, and plan to deny our rights, they are criminals to our divinely established institution of governance. They also have a right to their system of governance. Our governments might war with one another, but their usurpence of legitimate authority doesn’t justify their actions or thinking.

They should be opposed and controlled to preserve justice and righteous governance.


53 posted on 12/10/2015 12:33:23 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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If you see the only the "complete and utter loathing, disgust, and outright hatred towards Muslims," then that is all you seem to focus on. And keep in mind, this is a forum: It's bound to have it's share of trolls.

Personally, I'm not very fond evil people, Muslim or not; especially those who prey on and murder the innocent. But until a majority of Muslims, especially those who are in the U.S., respect and abide our Nation's Constitution, and denounce loudly and clearly any and all of it's radical sects, you are bound to find a majority of us very wary.
55 posted on 12/10/2015 12:42:50 AM PST by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: "Prepare for some serious 2016 house cleaning.")
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I do not hate rabid dogs.
Just know to keep a safe distance.


56 posted on 12/10/2015 12:44:56 AM PST by glasseye
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So, you’re saying the answer to a Jim Jones style death cult that has enthralled a billion people is love and compassion?

But let’s speak a bit of truth here; the most likely next victim of a Muslim is yet another Muslim. A car bomb at a wedding, a suicide bomber in a market, random gunning down on the street, or the ever popular cutting off of the head.

And to make things more interesting, 70% of Muslims agree that someone who leaves their cult deserves whatever happens to them.

I’m all for showing compassion and love for a murderer once they are behind bars. When they’re in the middle of a killing spree, don’t you think that the almighty would prefer that you take steps to defend the helpless rather than line up to be the next victim?


60 posted on 12/10/2015 12:55:25 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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I don’t hate muslims any more than I hate gays. I love them for being lost sheep.

I will not submit to the death cult that is defined by sharia law. That is anti Christian and anti every other religion.

People who want to kill me will meet righteous self defense. Tell your friends tha plenty of God fearing Jews died in the camps because they loved their enemy and did nothing to defend themdelved


61 posted on 12/10/2015 12:59:04 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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My love for them ends where they openly threaten to kill me. I do not know who is who in that respect.
I would witness to a Muslim, sure, but not as a fool who foolishly thinks singing kumbayuh with them and ignoring their evil religion


62 posted on 12/10/2015 1:37:44 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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I pray that God eradicates Islam, preferably by converting them to Christianity.

(Personally, I think it would be funnier if they were converted to Judaism.)


64 posted on 12/10/2015 1:47:12 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. -- Pope St. Pius X /// Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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When did you stop beating your wife?


68 posted on 12/10/2015 2:49:25 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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Mookabookers killed my Nephew in Fallujah.
As a Christian i believe in an eye for an eye.
To hell with em.


69 posted on 12/10/2015 2:52:26 AM PST by Joe Boucher (the only good mooselimb is a dead mooselimb.)
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Did Jesus command us to love those that are killing us, our families and our children so they can please Allah? Just asking.


70 posted on 12/10/2015 2:56:20 AM PST by bytesmith
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We all fall short...


71 posted on 12/10/2015 3:04:17 AM PST by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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I try not to think about it. lol


72 posted on 12/10/2015 3:06:32 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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I remember our Heavenly Father telling us HOW to handle other religions,
how to show the proper reaction to their false gods.
Also: Here's a great example of responding to those followers of FALSE gods.
Jerubbaal and Joash of Judges 6 and Judges 7 are well worth your time.


Muslims are well know for lying about their faith. For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ).

If you want a detailed history of "Mohammed's History" (spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc.) then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!

This Video exposes the "Hidden Truths" and "Goals" behind Radical Islamic Muslims! - (EVEN WORSE);
It's one hour, thirty-two minuites and 26 seconds long, but it's worth your time.
Watch and learn Mohammed's History - Exposing Islam's "Hidden Truths" - Of Radical Muslims.

Also read ISLAM--Religion of Peace?

Click here to view Books by WILLIAM FEDERER from Amazon.com.
73 posted on 12/10/2015 3:10:02 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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You don’t have to just kneel down and die anytime someone wants to come up and hack off your head. That’s retarded. That’s not Christian.


75 posted on 12/10/2015 3:23:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.


76 posted on 12/10/2015 3:29:45 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Jesus loves Muslims. He loves them enough to die for them as He did for all sinners...including me. Therefore, I do not hate them. However, Romans 13:4 says the government bears the sword to punish the evil doer. And I support that.

As far as your observation of Christians here: well...you're not the first to notice the disconnect between those who claim the name of Christ and their following of His Word. In that respect, they have a lot in common with the so called moderate Mislim. They identify to a religion that they do not follow into inconvenience. They do not pray for their president (that he would be saved) and would rejoice over his fall (something King David refuses to do and instructed against)..

77 posted on 12/10/2015 3:32:39 AM PST by NELSON111
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Hatred for Muslims CANNOT be reconciled with Christianity.

Loathing for Islam, which is organized demonic possession, and realistic fear of Muslims, are perfectly consistent with Christianity.

Hatred for Muslims would be marked by the positive desire that Muslims be damned. This is sinful. Muslims should be excluded from the United States as a matter of self-preservation. Muslims who pose an immediate threat to life or limb should, like anyone else, be neutralized, which may necessitate killing them.


78 posted on 12/10/2015 3:36:05 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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I’m getting bored with people who equate opposition as “hatred.”


79 posted on 12/10/2015 3:37:36 AM PST by RavenATB
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