40 Sins that WILL send you to Hell... UNLESS...

www.peacebyjesus.com ^ | dec. 5, 2015 | daniel1212

[daniel1212]

I think Christ feels there’s an addictive nature of the Internet in general [it owns one, instead of the other way around], and spending time online when one could be doing other things more directly for God and His peoples, would be of more value.

So you are the seer of what a person does and the judge of how a person should spend time, while you use the Internet to complain about people who use it to do something.

So I’d add wasting time on the Internet [sloth] to your sin list that could possibly get one to h*ll.

Which to have relevance must infer i am wasting my time by posting such things as 40 SINS THAT CAN SEND YOU TO HELL.

Let me you something straight: Iff anything the Internet (ss well as the street, etc.) needs MORE evangelical type souls that have time and ability who will share and contend for the Truth of God's word and against falsehood. Atheists boast that they basically "own" the Internet, while false religions also abound, and ignorant youth and up come across their sites.

For myself, i spent about half my conscious hours today helping lost souls for free, and by the grace of God do more than the Internet, but as God gave me computers thru the years, including this one, and time and ability to use it, so i thank God that i can, though it is largely an unseen ministry that no one commends you for doing, but which God rewards.

But as you are a RC, it is not surprising that you would seek to dissuade me seeing as i am one of others who expose her errors . Thanks be to God for His grace and Truth.

[21twelve]

“Actually none of these are needed for “fun,” as they all have good alternatives, and these sins are all ultimately harmful.”

Our pastor did a 10-week sermon series on the Ten Commandments. A point he referred to over and over again was how the Jews were free from the slavery of Egypt, and God wanted them to STAY free, and not be slaves to sin. So he gave them the “Big Ten”. The sermons also emphasized that yes, they are commandments, but they are also instructions on how to live a full, happy and adventuresome life!

[Cvengr]

So you really don’t think the Blood of Christ provided anything for sin?

[Cvengr]

Why do you wish to wallow in Gehenna, when His promises are so much more rich?

We have no need to judge the sins of others and rejoice in condemning our fellow man, when instead we seek to share the good news of what His death on the Cross has provided.

EVERY believer has been guilty of one or more of the sins listed, as our conscience bears witness.

Even the work of the Holy Spirit brings the recognition of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment.

There is a type of sin where believers slip into substituting their knowledge of good and evil as a substitute for His work in us. It is the sin of legalism.

Legalism results in moral degeneracy. It blasphemes the work of Christ on the Cross, where He paid the price for ALL sin, not just for the sins we see in ourselves and not those of others. The Cross was ALL Judgment.

Forgiveness is now possible and now occurs because the sins have already been dealt with on the Cross.

We aren’t condemned because of our future sin.

We are already condemned, but by faith in Him, we now have an opportunity to receive salvation, which is eternal, no matter what sin occurs.

We don’t need to sin because we fear, but because sin offers nothing over us any longer.

[Elsie]

Hope comes from within.

Within what?

Man's own imaginings?

[Elsie]

Anybody who thinks they may be sent to hell for their sins, simply fails to think through faith in what Christ provided on the Cross.

Many folks are aware of what John3:16 says.

A lot more are NOT aware of what John 3:18 says.

[Elsie]

Perhaps some of our FRiends are getting confounded by the number fourty.

Maybe I should point out that it only takes ONE to do the job.

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When we 'Christians'; of varying persuasions start fussing; once again; over the details; we turn off a lot of the NON-Christians that are reading our complex and confusing definitions we post here.

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There were a group of men; it is said; that had heard a lot of things, and were evidently confused by it all.   
    
So they asked Jesus if He could slice thru the Gordian knot; so to speak; to cut to the chase; like they say in the movies.   
    
They asked:   
    

"What must we do to do the works God requires?"   
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."   
    
John 6:28-29   
    
    

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(Read it in context)   
    
    
 John 6:26-40   
    
26 Jesus answered, "Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval."   
    
28 Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"   
    
29 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."   
    
30 So they asked him, "What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'[a]"   
    
32 Jesus said to them, "Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."   
    
34 "Sir," they said, "always give us this bread."   
    
35 Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father' will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

[daniel1212]

So you really don’t think the Blood of Christ provided anything for sin?

How in the world do you think that is what souls being damned for their sins means? Must you misconstrue what i said as well as Scripture?

[daniel1212]

Why do you wish to wallow in Gehenna, when His promises are so much more rich?

What non-sense is this? Why do you misrepresent why i said as well as Scripture? Which is what i substantiate my case with, , while lie a RC you just ramble in with your unsupported delusion.

We have no need to judge the sins of others and rejoice in condemning our fellow man, when instead we seek to share the good news of what His death on the Cross has provided. More nonsensical unScriptural absurdity and a false dichotomy . For Christ's death only has value to the careless sinner if he realizes his need for it due to his sin, and preaching the gospel means one is an instrument of God in convicting souls of sin, of righteousnesses and of judgment. (Jn. 16:9-11) This is what is unScriptural because judging the sin of others is what men of God are abundantly shown doing in both the OT and NT! Besides OT prophets, Peter charged the Jews with being complicit in the murder of Christ, (Acts 2:23; 3:15) and Simon of personal sin, (Acts 8:23) as well as deacon Stephen (laboriously) of the leaders, (Acts 7) as did Paul, (Acts 13:41) even to "as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come" to lost Felix, (Acts 24:25) and who commands all believers to

have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. (Ephesians 5:11)

Once again you simply have no case against Scripture.

Even the work of the Holy Spirit brings the recognition of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment.

Which again, (if you read) Scripture clearly shows men being instruments of this conviction.

And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: (John 16:8)

The Holy Spirit came upon the apostles in Acts 2, and as a result Peter's preaching convicted souls:

Of sin, because they believe not on me; John 16:9)

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: (Acts 2:23)

Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; John 16:10)

Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. (Acts 2:24)

Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. (John 16:11)

For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. (Acts 2:34-35)

Therefore, being convicted of not believing on the Messiah who died for their sins so that they they may be saved, (Acts 2:21) and instead as a nation are guilty of His death, which enemies He will make His footstool,

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? (Acts 2:37)

The conviction of sin, of righteousnesses and of judgment clearly instrumentally came thru the preaching of men.

Legalism results in moral degeneracy.

There simply is no legalism in what i have said, but you evidence you can see otherwise.

paid the price for ALL sin, not just for the sins we see in ourselves and not those of others. The Cross was ALL Judgment.

But Christ having paid for all sins simply does not translate into this being effectual for those who do not believe (which faith is evidenced by works), as it is faith which appropriates justification and the washing of regeneration, (Rm. 4:1-7; Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-11) while those who do not (or no longer) really believe being culpable for sins, rejection of Christ being primary.

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:24)

Yet in your contrary reasoning, dying in sins and being sent to the Lake of Fire due to sins of omission (Mt. 41,46;) or commission (Lk. 10:13-15, 12:47,48; Rev. 20:11-15) means the lost are not damned because of their sin!

You have taken enough of my time with your non-sense. May God grant you repentance.

[daniel1212]

Maybe I should point out that it only takes ONE to do the job.

Indeed, faith appropriates justification, but it is only the kind of faith which effects characteristic obedience that is salvific, and which reformers preached.

[mlizzy]

But as you are a RC, it is not surprising that you would seek to dissuade me seeing as i am one of others who expose her errors . Thanks be to God for His grace and Truth.

Ha! Our leader is doing enough to destroy our Church. We need prayers like never before.

And you take things too personal I think. I've already admitted I spend too much time online, and yet I have great things to say for pro-life. I was only asking what you thought in this regard. I still think it's a sin to spend too much time online [and it should be added to your list], however, I think Free Republic is a necessity as well in this world, so it's one of those "balancing acts" things, for me anyway.

[Elsie]

I still think it's a sin to spend too much time online

HMMMmmm...

[daniel1212]

And you take things too personal I think. I've already admitted I spend too much time online, and yet I have great things to say for pro-life. I was only asking what you thought in this regard.

Why would you ask, in response to my posting of 40 sins,

How do you think Christ feels about people spending so much time online trying to convince others of one thing or another [even when those things are good and godly]?..when one could be doing other things more directly for God and His peoples,

If you were only wanting me to consider adding "wasting time on the Internet [sloth]" to my list then i apologize for taking it as a criticism of my post, but which you did not make clear was your intent.

I actually normally perfect personal interaction over cyber space.

[Cvengr]

He died for all our sins, not just the ones confessed.

Forgiveness only comes with repentance and confession, but we aren’t damned for the sins for which He has already paid the price.

[daniel1212]

Forgiveness only comes with repentance and confession, but we aren’t damned for the sins for which He has already paid the price.

Indeed forgiveness only comes by true faith, and thus you have no forgiveness, and thus are damned for your sins as a guilty sinner, rejecting Christ being primary, if you are not a believer, as Scripture plainly states! Why do you continually ignore than and repeat this cultic nonsense!

Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (2 Corinthians 11:15)

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:24)

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. (Revelation 20:13)

[Cvengr]

I’ve studied your statements carefully so as to not misconstrue your meanings.

It is very easy for us to mistakenly read into the Word, instead of allowing Him to flow into our thinking. Whne this happens, we can mistakenly reinterpret theology academically, becoming legalistic in our thinking, rather than thinking through faith in Christ.

I’d recommend a review of a few doctrines to rebuild your faith upon faith. I’d begin with doctrines of Forgiveness, Atonement, Spiritual Death, and a word study of sin.

This isn’t cultic. It’s basic Christianity.

[daniel1212]

Whne this happens, we can mistakenly reinterpret theology academically, becoming legalistic in our thinking, rather than thinking through faith in Christ.

You never even formed a actual argument, and your assertions render you as who is off on some fringe aberration and as one not fit for debate. Bye.

[Cvengr]

My statements are to encourage, not for argument. I wish you success in coming to place faith in Christ and His work at the Cross.

[time4good]

Just catching up on this thread. Yes, 100% agree. For example - Jesus stated about defilers of children receiving a worse punishment. My point was regarding a ‘Works’ mentality that non-Christians (and even Christians) can be deceived by. The ‘sin’ that will keep you out of Heaven is not believing in Christ’s redemption of the Cross and Resurrection. The degrees of sinfulness, their punishment here on Earth as well as eternally I agree with you are taken into account. The latter - for unbelievers, the former, for unbelievers AND those that have accepted Christ. I.e., only God’s mercy can keep a murderer who’s accepted Christ from doing time or getting the chair here on Earth. God’s forgiveness does not negate restitution.

[dburt2]

The Bible stands far above all other books of Divine revelation? So we as man are supposed to “believe” without any equivocation that God of the Bible is above other gods. So you are writing there are other gods. As to be the cause and author, God of the Bible is a terrible author. Many conflicting and contradictory messages are contained and can be very confusing. If God wrote the Bible, shouldn’t he have made it easier to read but we have NO PROOF that God actually wrote it. So what you are saying is that God or Yahweh came to this specific spec of dust in a distant galaxy somewhere in the Universe just to give us laws and send us his Son. Do his laws pertain to all of the universe or just us? I liked how you lumped free will with fornication. Free will sounds like unlimited power over someone else life, to give or take or make them suffer. I never said that and won’t. Free will is like any technology, it can be used for good or bad. Yes, I do agree that there are perversions in society, such as homosexuality and abortion, and I think both are an abomination. Natures God is the only thing that I can believe in, I have read some of the things that Yahweh has done to us in the guise of “love” and they are horrifying. Believe/Love in God/Jesus or you will be sent to hell for the rest of eternity. God created sin, he flooded the Earth to get rid of sin, sin reappeared and now he has to send himself down to sacrifice himself to himself for the sins that he created in the first place. How can any reasonable person believe that? You need to stop reading Bronze age stories and read Thomas Paine’s Age of Reason. I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life. I believe the equality of man, and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy. I believe in the equality of man in the eyes of our Creator. Religious duties 1)Doing justice, making sure we treat everyone the same. 2)Mercy, treating others as we would want to be treated. 3)Fellow Creatures Happy, strive to help our fellow man or woman. The Declaration of Independence is our document codifying our unalienable rights derived from our Creator. The Constitution codifies restrictions of the Government. I don’t believe in revealed religions and don’t need a book to tell me that I am doing things wrong. I know it’s wrong to murder, steal, cheat and will not do it to the best of my ability. There’s free will for you. I am very conservative but I don’t have to be religionist to find a moral base. I certainly don’t need the Bible to tell me to be moral when a lot of messages are worse than whats on T.V. This is my last post on this thread, I cannot change your mind and you cannot change mine. You think I am misled and I think you are misled. You lead with what you heart tells you, I lead with reason, skepticism and evidence. What evidence do you have? Peace to you.