Posted on 11/27/2015 5:58:45 AM PST by Salvation
Monsignor Pope Ping!
I always kind of thought that the fear of pain fuels the fear of death. At least for most people.
So is pain a worldly thing? We want to enjoy the modern world and pain doesn’t allow us to do that.
In heaven there will no longer be pain.
When I listen to something like this on Youtube I never understand how anyone could give it a thumbs down.
I’m old enough to have witnessed a few of the older generation passing. They are all gone now. My mother had what we call a good death. She was placed in hospice and told she had at most three months, she lasted just over a year. During that year she suffered from what was basically the failure of the largest organ in our body, the skin. She suffered a great deal of pain. She said that she wasn’t going to have to go to Purgatory because she had suffered on earth (she converted at the age of 76) and I believe that she was right. Her last words were, “Open up this door, I’m coming in.”
Maybe this could be why there is so much interest in “near death experiences.
Correction: “near death experiences.”
Alexander Solzhenitsyn, after spending many years in a Soviet prison, wrote of the inherent weakness of man. He observed that those who become accustomed to living in comfort shy away from the troubles of others, and will compromise in all areas to preserve their pleasures. He also observed that those who had been stripped of all comforts and essentials, would lose their lives rather than compromise their morals and ideals.
“In heaven there will no longer be pain.”
There is no pain here if you stay focused on Heaven.
A few years ago I ripped my knee up really bad when I fell on a rock while rounding up two of my rams that had hopped the fence on my farm pasture. It was a hot mucky day and I was angry at them as every time I got close enough to rope them, off they would run through the woods. The U-shaped gash was about 4 inches long and filled with the mulch from the woods.
I cleaned it up as best I could and finished my chores. Two days later I went to the Dr’s office and they tried to send me to the emergency room. I said no, as I had no insurance. I asked for some Betadine solution and a brush to clean it out. I ended up opening the wound myself in their office, poured on the solution and scrubbed the raw flesh to remove the embedded mulch. At one point I used a scalpel to cut some of the mangled flesh and adipose tissue away. By the time I finished there were two MD’s, a nurse and a physician’s assistant watching me clean the wound. The entire time I felt zero pain! (No brain = No pain!!!)
No seriously, prayer allows you to raise your consciousness above the level of perceiving pain.
Just as allowing myself to get angry at the sheep set me up for the wound, forgiveness and prayer allowed me to rise above it. I now do quite a bit of work with stage 4 cancer patients. The first thing I do is to teach them to pray. I’ve had people die from multiple inoperable brain tumors and massive cancer in their body while taking no pain killers (AND) experiencing no pain. This is not hypnosis, but pure prayer.
Our perception of our reality is totally a function of the level of consciousness from which we perceive it. Prayer allows us to raise our consciousness to a higher frequency.
I did a lecture/presentation on prayer for a group of nurses during which I purposely stuck my hand into a 6 inch double spring coyote trap and continued the lecture for about 15 more minutes with the trap on my hand. I felt no pain. The only trick is to pray, pray, pray and stay in a prayerful mind the entire time. It’s not about me or what I can do, it’s about the power of God.
An unusual thing happens in that at the higher prayerful levels of consciousness my perception of reality changes to the point where other people’s thoughts become physical to my senses. What I am sharing is the tip of the proverbial iceberg of experiencing Jesus’s teachings.
Because Jesus did.
The world hated Him and yet He gave His life for it. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son....
God did not call us out of this world. On the contrary, Jesus sent us INTO the world to preach the gospel. The only way the world is going to hear is if we go out into it.
We were never commanded to build edifices called churches and expect people to come into it to get saved.
God made this world for us to live upon. I fear Him more so that I should fear all else less. Though I hope to live with my wife and live long enough to watch our granddaughter grow to her estate. I have contributed to and desire a world of Freedom and Liberty in order for her to do so.
God willing I may achieve more of these things, and less the trappings of the world.
Those taken to the Father’s House will be rid of the sin nature, by God eradicating it, nit by striving to master the world the flesh and the devil.
I have always wondered if that was the same as the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life.
Pain is a “worldly thing” only in the sense that it is a consequence of the fall. The WHOLE world groans awaiting the return of Christ to redeem creation. Jesus certainly didn’t welcome the pain he endured for our salvation but he experienced it none the less. He also healed many who suffered to the glory of God. Pain serves a purpose.
Wanting to avoid or be relieved of pain by those who suffer is a human - and really ALL creatures - thing. It’s a natural inclination God instilled in his creation to ensure survival. Thanks be to God that in heaven there will no longer be pain or tears or loss for all things will become new.
**And yet we expect to be rewarded with heavenly honors by him to whom we come against our will! Why then do we pray for the kingdom of heaven to come if this earthly bondage pleases us? What is the point of praying so often for its early arrival if we should rather serve the devil here, than reign with Christ?**
“And yet we expect to be rewarded with heavenly honors by him to whom we come against our will!” That may be one of the most twisted thoughts I’ve read from a Catholic apologist at FR. Is it original with you, or are you quoting someone else?
We pray for deliverance from the World the flesh and the devcil because we are assured by the Word of The Lord that when He transforms us, we will no longer have a sin nature. Won’t that be astonishing?
You're ignoring the word "instead" in the quotation to which you're responding. Loving the world in imitation of Christ is fine. Loving the world *instead* of Christ is idolatry.
Read his bio here and then get back to us when you feel like you're worthy to judge him and condemn him.
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