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To: Mrs. Don-o

That group is the Vatican and leadership of all the major denominations allowing the crap we see today.

So there arent a lot of options for having ones cake and eating it too.

Ultimately God does not require their intercession to us, nor do we, them, to God. Thus they have no purpose other than to create a stumbling block. an encumbered. At best. At worst they are intentionally steering us to the wrong team. Which is what I maintain their actions define.


44 posted on 11/08/2015 2:15:12 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - Embrace it)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Please do not take as personally disparaging the observation that a sentence which uses the phrase "That group is the Vatican" is almost always going to be bratwurst at best.

The trouble with the term is its ambiguity. It could mean the Vatican City-State, or the Roman Curia, or anybody in a red hat living within the little walled swuare. Mueller over at CDF is "Vatican." Sarah over at Liturgy is "Vatican." So is financial chief Cardinal Pell, and they're as orthodox as you can get.

In addition, the interfaith conference on the "Complementarity of Man and Woman" of November 2014, and the International Conference of family and life movements (sponsored by the Pontifical Council for the Family) were expressions of "The Vatican."

When "The Vatican" is used as a metonym for the Catholic Church, in terms of doctrines, you have to read the Catechism (not La Civilta Cattolica ) to see what the authentic Vatican doctrines are.

Despite the fact that Pope Francis had that neuralgic, bafflegabbing 2015 Synod structured by his doctrinally allergic periti and packed with his Modernist geriatric cronies, even that last dad-blasted Realtio soundly rejected the pro-practicing-homosexual and adulterous remarriage agendas.

Don't be fooled by the fact that Marx, Forte, Baldisseri and their lot run right over to the microphones and tell their media allies (heads up, Philip Pullella!) that their position has been affirmed, they're flushed with triumph, whatever. It's what Alinskyites do: declare victory and act accordingly, no matter what the facts are on the ground.

So watch what you say about "The Vatican." It's still -- like the Church --- Catholic.

And the Church is still Christ's--- because he said He would not abandon His Bride --- in the Holy Spirit and to the glory of God the Father.

54 posted on 11/08/2015 3:47:28 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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