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To: BereanBrain

You keep affirming that there are “many” truths. That “each” man can discern for himself “his” own truth. This is absolute rubbish. Christ commanded His apostles “to go forth and teach...” He established ONE Church. This is to teach ONE truth for all nations for all ages. If the Catholic Church is not that ONE Church, then by your lights ALL of the early Church fathers, theologians, saints, and martyrs ALL got it wrong. This is too absurd a proposition to be taken seriously. It also defies explanation on the 10001 other contradictory and heretical Protestant faiths. Most of all, what you are saying is that all those leading non-Catholic theologians who after years of serious study and who converted to Catholicism, all got it wrong.

In short we are all wrong and you got it right!


31 posted on 11/06/2015 1:21:48 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Read my reply again and honestly tell me If I said there were many Truths.

When you falsely accuse someone, that is a sin.

I say there is ONE Truth, but man cannot be perfected on earth. Thus, there are no SINLESS men on earth, even AFTER they come to faith in Christ Jesus.

Therefore, Pastors, Deacons, Popes, Priests, and Parishioners all are capable of sin.

There is ONLY one TRUE Church, and it belongs to God. Not a man, priest, pope, imam, etc.

The disciples and church fathers established the faith — that does NOT mean that successors are in the will of God....Again, do you or do you not admit that Catholic Church has been in error?

You are in a quandary here, because the Catholic church has officially admitted error. In just one of these official admissions, it was in 1992 (350 years later) that the Pope’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences Un-Condemmed Galileo.

The ONLY thing I “got right” is that man is incapable of sinless perfection here on earth, even though we are to take it as our goal - we should strive for perfection, instead of winking at corruption in our lives, and in the administration of God’s church.

Apostolic succession and Tradition are proofs of made of anything but Man’s hubris.


36 posted on 11/06/2015 1:37:56 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: Steelfish

There are many brands of bread on the market; most are actually bread, otherwise consumers would reject them or complain. The many types may contain a variety of recipes, additives or packaging, and some are closer to “just flour, yeast, a pinch of sugar and some water” than others; but most can be recognized as bread.

Same thing with types of churches. there are many brands and packagings that are still church, even though one may be a “top seller.”

The Church that God intended is not a brand; it is the worldwide communion of believers. Some have different additives, like sesame seeds, potato or egg. That doesn’t make them any less “bread.”

I searched long and studied much to determine which “brand” of Christian church I would embrace as an adult. I’m very blessed that I did not take any institution’s veracity for granted — it made me study the scriptures closely and make an adult decision. I chose a church that is pretty much just flour, yeast, a pinch of sugar and some water; nevertheless, I recognize the “everything” bagels, rosemary garlic whole wheat crackers and sesame loaves of this world as also being Christians. A brand of church is not an occasion for snobbery.


41 posted on 11/06/2015 2:05:07 PM PST by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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