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To: verga
Obviously, you must have meant to write I was better off.

No sir, it is yourself who would have been better off to not have leaped towards singling out the principle of sola scriptura as the reason for errant Methodist individuals doing as they were noted to have done -- which is recognized among many here on this forum, to be form of error.

Each time you have come back to me, each reply, the hole which you began in, has become deeper still.

It would have been best if you had not made the ill-founded comment which you did in the first place...to which I originally on this thread, gave reply.

The conversation went pretty much went eventually to where (midway through) I indicated that it would.

The RCC presented as being over and above even the Holy Writ.

Sola Ecclesia, unbound by Scripture itself, for that ecclesia is among those which often grants to the Word meanings, only that which they decide among themselves to allow, having developed over long centuries time specialized ways of neutralizing that which is in the Holy Writ which presents challenges to their own claims to be singular authority over all of that, and everyone in the world also, generally. Need I quote past popes in this, in order to prove that? It matters only little that present day Latin Church Pontiffs have backed away from the stridency of those claims, for those are still theologically binding --- or so we are often told on this forum, by Roman Catholics.

Although the Roman Catholic Church in past times engaged in obscene overreach in that manner (just mentioned in the above paragraph) it doesn't mean they must be entirely wrong in all things --- and are not.

And when they are correct enough --- which can be recognized when there is clear biblical support, does not mean that they are correct and well supported in all which they may otherwise claim.

One can find that sort of condition is universal among the truer and wider 'Universal' Church.

Why would anyone expect it to be entirely different, in the instance of the Latin Church, alone?

To maintain the illusion of doctrinal and dogmatic perfection for Rome, alone as it were, where do we always end up, but eventually, no matter what the particulars of a dispute may be, a form of circular reasoning then begins to be relied upon ---to whit--- that whatever official pronouncements the RCC makes, it does so perfectly, for that one single ecclesiastical organization alone, and none other, is [alleged to be, by that same ecclesiastical organization, referring to it's own 'self'] said to be inerrant, in both it's Ordinary and Extraordinary, self reverentially named 'Magesterium'.

One can chose to believe all that sort of balderdash, if they like, yet it is not needful to do so in order to have an ongoing and fruitful relationship with Christ, neither is believing (what I just identified as being balderdash) any guarantee that there will be an ongoing, blessed relationship between individuals, and their Creator, although I will concede that for some, it does appear to be of some use and benefit.


60 posted on 10/16/2015 5:24:11 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

Sola Scriptura has led this group to bless the murder of Children. One of the three legs dogmatic of protestantism has led a group to support the murder of Children.
That is all one needs to know. BTW Catholics are not Sola Ecclesia as you continue to falsely claim. But I would expect no less from someone that believes the false claims of Sola Scriptura


61 posted on 10/16/2015 6:34:52 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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