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To: ADSUM; Salvation
There is a new movie out “90 Minutes in Heaven” based on a book by Baptist minister Joe Piper.

There was little said about Heaven except the wonderful feeling the bright non-earthly light and meeting family members and friends, but not meeting Jesus. There was nothing said about judgement or real entrance into Heaven or about salvation.

It was mostly about the pain and suffering he experienced after the accident, and his longing to return to “Heaven” and rejection of (and finally accepting) the help he received on earth from family and parishioners.

My daughter stated that the brother of a friend who had several near death experiences just saw darkness.


I believe that there are innumerable spiritual forces around us, both good and malevolent, and the evil ones can impose themselves on an individual who is experiencing one of these NDEs (an "in-between" condition, for lack of a better term), feeding them a deceptive impression of "heaven" for the purposes of leading them astray, to perhaps embrace some New Age belief. That is why they come back believing they've walked around in "heaven" seeing relatives, old friends, etc. Never forget, these demons have enormous powers and are capable of tremendous deception.
32 posted on 09/19/2015 9:32:55 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: COBOL2Java

[[I believe that there are innumerable spiritual forces around us, both good and malevolent, and the evil ones can impose themselves on an individual who is experiencing one of these NDEs (an “in-between” condition, for lack of a better term), feeding them a deceptive impression of “heaven” for the purposes of leading them astray, to perhaps embrace some New Age belief.]]

cobo- You are exactly correct- this is the reason occults work their people into ‘near death’ states during trances- the people are starving, exhausted to the point of death, probably severely dehydrated as well- in order to reach that ‘in-between state’ you describe so that the spirits will take over their bodies

While a born again person can not be possessed, they can be heavily influenced by demons- and unsaved people who are led to believe they ‘went ot heaven’ will no doubt think they have done enough in this life that God will accept them because after all “He did once before” according to their experience- and so these folks end up never seeking TRUE salvation- they are convinced they are going to heaven based on what they saw (which is VERY powerful- people with NDE’s often are VERY adamant about what they see, and will not even consider that there might be other explanations- they saw it, therefore it’s true In their minds


37 posted on 09/19/2015 9:43:40 AM PDT by Bob434
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