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To: daniel1212
You can't follow Catholic Church Doctrine and be in favor of Homosexual "marriage". Period. (Nor be in favor of Abortion.)

There are a lot of people running around calling themselves Catholics who aren't aligned with the Church on this or other issues.

Blaming poll results on the Church is quite a stretch, but your comment exposes your willingness to spew anti-Catholic vitriol at any opportunity.

24 posted on 09/16/2015 3:41:40 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
You can't follow Catholic Church Doctrine and be in favor of Homosexual "marriage". Period. (Nor be in favor of Abortion.) Wrong. Your premise is that since Rome "officially" teaches such as wrong then one cannot be a follower of Catholicism if one supports such. However, Scripturally, what says does not necessarily equate to what one really believes, and what one does and overall effects constitute the evidence of that.

In addition, Roman Catholicism does not want her faithful examining Scripture and evidence in order to determine the veracity of what is taught, but conditions them that their one duty is to follow their pastors as docile sheep.

And this means is that not only has Roman demonstrated that it can effectively redefine the understanding of things that were was taught in the past, but her own leadership defines what is an acceptable "following" of the church by treating even proabortion, prosodomite pols as members in life and in death.

RCs see a Ted Kennedy getting a cordial, non-censorious letter from the pope, even thanking him for his prayers, and a church funeral, along with other such, and such serves as an interpretation of what canon law says about such.

There are a lot of people running around calling themselves Catholics who aren't aligned with the Church on this or other issues.

And just who is the judge of that? If leadership treats them as members then who are you to judge them as CINOs? There are a lot of people running around saying the pope is not aligned enough with the Church as they understand it. However,

It follows that the Church is essentially an unequal society, that is, a society comprising two categories of per sons, the Pastors and the flock...the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors. - VEHEMENTER NOS, an Encyclical of Pope Pius X promulgated on February 11, 1906.

Blaming poll results on the Church is quite a stretch,

"Quite a stretch?!" These are your brethren, which you must own, and such liberalism is what Rome overall is shown to effect where she predominates. Including among her own pastors, who treat liberals as members and are often quite liberal themselves. You cannot blame society as the church is not sppsd to follow it, and Scripturally are to effectively discipline her own who impenitently openly support its immorality. But unchanging Scripture is not the supreme standard for Rome and her own anyway.

but your comment exposes your willingness to spew anti-Catholic vitriol at any opportunity.

Rather, abusive or venomous language expressing censure or bitter ill will is not what was seen, though that is expressed by RCs (as can be shown), while my comments and substantiation exposes the deception of such who arrogantly promote Rome as the one true holy church. Which is an incessant practice here as those familiar with the RF know.

26 posted on 09/17/2015 5:04:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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