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To: NKP_Vet

(John 3:3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

(John 3:4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?

(John 3:5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

(John 3:6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

(John 3:7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

BORN OF WATER is natural birth and Jesus makes this clear when he says born of the flesh is flesh

Born of the Spirit is Spiritual rebirth

again born of water is a idiom for natural birth in that day and culture


92 posted on 09/06/2015 11:27:02 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Lera

“again born of water is a idiom for natural birth in that day and culture”

Not in the Bible. Water symbolizing washing sin away. Been that way for 2,000 years. You must get away from Jimmy Swaggart and his crazy heretical nonsense.

So once again, and read it slowly because this comes after John 3:3.

“Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. John 3:5


94 posted on 09/06/2015 12:12:23 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Lera

**BORN OF WATER is natural birth and Jesus makes this clear when he says born of the flesh is flesh**

No, you are trying to make it match man’s interpretation. Jesus didn’t say “that which is water is flesh”.

Furthermore, He starts out explaining this rebirth with someone already alive, and keeps that position. Even Nicodemas understood that; asking, how can a man enter his mother ‘s womb again.

And the apostles knocked themselves out baptizing souls, because they were commanded to do so.

Rightly dividing the Word is essential. Read my post #81 to see how much the ‘anti-baptism’ position overlooks.


98 posted on 09/06/2015 1:08:01 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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