Posted on 08/24/2015 3:38:40 PM PDT by NYer
When the disciples asked Jesus how to pray...what did He teach them?
I believe it was Mary Magdalene.
those saved go immediately to be with Christ, those damned, enter hades until the Great White Throne Judgement at then end of the Millennial Reign of Christ, only to be tossed into the Eternal Lake of Fire with Satan, his demons, and the antichrist & false prophet.
Still waiting for any Biblical proof of a purgatory, since it’s never mentioned. It also cheapens the free grace of our Lord & His eternal sacrifice.
Sure you are.
You subscribe to certain extra-biblical doctrines that preclude Mary from having any significant role in the daily life of a Christian. To that end, you feel compelled to challenge anything that doesn't comport with your doctrines.
And yes....Mary is excluded from the daily life of a Christian.
We have been given the Helper.....the Holy Spirit to guide us into all truth. Mary is not needed.
But grass and flowers, do.
Marvin, are you forgetting the how wholly blasphemous the doctrine of the Incarnation is, yet we believe it?
There’s a difference, still, even between a putative member of a prayer committee and a figure that bids fair to dominate the spiritual oxygen of a room.
What I never hear from Catholics is something like “Thank you Jesus for answering the prayer from St. Mary.” Like I might, in fact should, if my church prayed for me.
One of those things that gets you going hmmmm....
There is going to be some kind of cathartic encounter. Whether that deserves to be formalized as a purgatory? Heaven if I know.
“... are you forgetting the how wholly blasphemous the doctrine of the Incarnation is ...”
*In my best Ricky Ricardo voice* Splain that one to me! How can the incarnation be blasphemous?
So you say. And I agree, the Protestant doctrines of Biblical sufficiency are non-biblical; hence, the multiplicity of Protestant factions as "every man does what's right in his own eyes."
Don’t distort please. It isn’t “nuda scriptura” for one thing.
Tears of joy or releasing of bowels in horror...just depends on the individual and the decisions they made in this life....
This has descended to the point of slinging around meaningless jargon in heat, not attempting to calmly understand the differences.
How about first being ashamed then relieved?
If you really want to stand at the Great White Throne of Judgment, you can ... but Jesus implores you to be of broken and contrite spirit NOW, and be born from above NOW, and have His life placed in you NOW as a blood washed saint in the NOW, so you will be under no condemnation and not be judged at the Great White Throne of Judgment THEN. Then will He send His Angels to gather all together who are not of His. Having the opportunity to be His NOW, and rejecting that Grace of God in Christ will certainly get you a stand before the Great White Throne of Judgment, but it will be a horrible experience for any who NOW reject His Grace waiting for THEN.
Since it's completely predictable, why do you participate? If you get involved in it, you have no basis for complaining about it.
Good Heavens man! God in a human body?!?!?
Granted, it's much more comfortable to us being familiar with it for thousands of years, but the very concept is an offense to the Jewish mind, contemporary OR ancient.
Point out where I have done any such thing.
When there was no KING in Israel, every man did what was right in his own eyes ... those born from above NOW have THE King in their Spirit.
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