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To: ebb tide

Thank you for posting this, should be required reading for all Catholics... Blessings, HK


5 posted on 08/24/2015 3:18:22 AM PDT by HurriKane ("Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us and save us.")
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To: HurriKane

I just finished reading this, so much to take in at once, but well worth the effort, here is something that caught my eye in the footnotes, a real OMG moment for me - the Consecration “could be valid” but “could also not be valid” in the Novus Ordo, yikes!

29. As they appear in the context of the Novus Ordo, the words of Consecration could be valid in virtue of the priest’s intention. But since their validity no longer comes from the force of the sacramental words themselves (ex vi verborum)—or more precisely, from the meaning (modus significandi) the old rite of the Mass gave to the formula—the words of Consecration in the New Order of Mass could also not be valid. Will priests in the near future, who receive no traditional formation and who rely on the Novus Ordo for the intention of “doing what the Church does,” validly consecrate at Mass? One may be allowed to doubt it.


6 posted on 08/24/2015 5:33:35 AM PDT by HurriKane ("Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us and save us.")
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