Greek to You? Don’t Dismiss It! The Importance of Recourse to the Greek Text of the New Testament

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 08-17-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Salvation]

And thus the Greek, in all its subtlety, sets forth an important reminder that the mechanism of infallible teaching from the Pope is not in the man, but in God, who inspires and leads Peter and his successors.

[Salvation]

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Monsignor Pope Ping!

[painter]

Interesting read.

By the way. I found out this past Sunday at Mass that my Pastor was recognized as one of the top Five Pastors in the Country.

[.45 Long Colt]

Have you learned Greek so you can know for sure they have interpreted it correctly? Because I want to understand the richness and the subtleties of the original language, I’m learning Greek and my teenagers are as well. Of all the Bible passages Pope could single out to demonstrate subtleties in Greek, it’s most interesting he chose Matthew 16. I think he’d better study the Greek in that chapter more carefully.

Is Peter the rock on which the Church is built?
https://carm.org/is-peter-the-rock

“For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ,” (1 Cor. 3:11).

[imardmd1]

While Msgr. Pope’s initial advice is supremely good—that beginning to apply grammatical construction to discern the nuances of the Greek (and Hebrew) of the Bible is very rewarding—his last sentence here is total nonsense and not found in any legitimate Greek text. It is a purely human supposition, opinionated and is based on the logical fallacy of appeal to the authority of fallible men.

[Salvation]

Outstanding!

[GreyFriar]

An interesting commentary on how Biblical Greek is translated into English.

[painter]

He is VERY Humble. It took someone else to tell us at Mass for us to find out.

[Kolokotronis]

As I have said elsewhere, English is a lousy language in which to do Christian theology, especially NT exegesis. To that extent, Msgr Pope is right on the money. His translation of Matthew 16 is excellent. His explanation, however, is what we might call “innovative”, but certainly not surprising.

[Kolokotronis]

“Have you learned Greek so you can know for sure they have interpreted it correctly?”

I have. Msgr Pope’s translation is excellent. His interpretation to the extent that he notes that what is bound and/or loosed has already been bound and/or loosed in heaven, is also correct. Anything further than that strays into the realm of special pleading, but that’s what theologians often do.

[.45 Long Colt]

Since you know Greek you should understand the CARM piece I linked. That’s excellent!

[LearsFool]

We don’t need to know Greek to understand what God has revealed to us in the Scriptures. He will correct our misunderstandings through His Word - including mistranslations, whether unintentional or otherwise.

[Salvation]

Good to know this. I figured that he knew enough for his translation to be absolutely correct.

[metmom]

Msgr Pope’s translation is excellent. His interpretation to the extent that he notes that what is bound and/or loosed has already been bound and/or loosed in heaven, is also correct. Anything further than that strays into the realm of special pleading, but that’s what theologians often do.

You don't say.....

Who ever would have thought?

Does this sound familiar to ANYONE else?

[ealgeone]

I am no Greek scholar, but as the years tick by I am becoming more and more familiar with the language in which God chose to inscribe His Holy Word of the New Testament.

We have discovered the primary problem with the roman catholic understanding of the Word.

They don't study the GREEK!!!!

Here's some advice....ditch the latin and study the Greek and Hebrew.

[ealgeone]

he has to overcome years of false teaching first.

[ealgeone]

Just wait until he figures out Luke 1:28 is a greeting from Gabriel to Mary.....not a title.

[Kolokotronis]

"Since you know Greek you should understand the CARM piece I linked...." The article presents a pretty traditional understanding of the words in question. The conclusions, however, are plainly open to debate, especially with the Latins. BTW, the word Πετρος is almost never used as a proper name in Greek. Most Greeks called "Peter" in English are actually called Παναγιοτις, which has to do with the Theotokos and nothing to do with stones. All things being equal, we should be calling the Apostle "Rocky" to be accurate...!

[Biggirl]

But it sure cannot hurt and besides, you learn about the language heritage of the NT.