Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Ask Him.
What I do know is that the title expresses a truth that is in the New Testament: Jesus is God and Mary is His mother, and she intercedes with Him on our behalf. For example: The marriage feast at Cana.
“I would be willing to bet that a Catholic priest has forgotten more about scripture than you will ever know.”
A couple months ago, I reviewed the websites of three catholic seminaries and the curriculum that prepares priests. It was shocking to me how little of Scripture was taught in all three institutions.
The seminary I attended covered every verse of every book in more than one language, thankfully. In addition, extensive church history, theology, etc. and learning doesn’t end with graduation.
I wouldn’t hesitate to take your bet. A priest can’t forget what he never learned.
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Nowhere in Scripture does Mary intercede with Jesus for us Arthur.
Nowhere in Scripture does God - or anyone else - call Mary the Mother of God.
Why add to His Word? It is sufficient as He inspired it.
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It’s really getting silly with all the ridiculous complaints and continuous postings of just garbage. The cultists just cannot admit to the Truth of Scripture and want to bet their lives on their unScriptural traditions!
Now, you are given a bet that can easily be disproven. When a Roman Catholic bows and kisses the Koran, we can be sure that one knows little about the Word of God!
Would you greet a muzzle as a brother, and kiss his book of lies?
“Pope Francis was quoted telling the Vatican’s guests that the Koran, and the spiritual teachings contained therein, are just as valid as the Holy Bible.”
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. No one here said that Mary was not the mother of Jesus - I think everyone accepts that as fact. But just what do you think this verse is supposed to prove, other than Jesus made provision for Mary to be cared for by John, as a son cares for his own mother?
Hmmmmmmm!!!
Evidently that is exactly the precision the early Church was looking for by using “Theotokos”: it affirms Mary’s role as God-bearer in her motherhood of Jesus in the flesh and in time, and avoids the misconception that she was somehow his mother from eternity, or the source of his Godhood.
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=788
Martin Luther’s thoughts on Mary, just one of the many “Catholic” things about Luther that the vast majority of protestants ignore, sort of like picking and choosing what they want to believe in the Bible, they pick and choose what they want to believe about Martin Luther.
“Along with virtually all important Protestant Founders (e.g., Calvin, Zwingli, Cranmer), Luther accepted the traditional belief in the perpetual virginity of Mary (Jesus had no blood brothers), and her status as the Theotokos (Mother of God):
Christ, ..was the only Son of Mary, and the Virgin Mary bore no children besides Him... “brothers” really means “cousins” here, for Holy Writ and the Jews always call cousins brothers. (Sermons on John, chapters 1-4.1537-39).
He, Christ, our Savior, was the real and natural fruit of Mary’s virginal womb.. .This was without the cooperation of a man, and she remained a virgin after that. (Ibid.)
God says... “Mary’s Son is My only Son.” Thus Mary is the Mother of God. (Ibid.).
God did not derive his divinity from Mary; but it does not follow that it is therefore wrong to say that God was born of Mary, that God is Mary’s Son, and that Mary is God’s mother...She is the true mother of God and bearer of God...Mary suckled God, rocked God to sleep, prepared broth and soup for God, etc. For God and man are one person, one Christ, one Son, one Jesus. not two Christs. . .just as your son is not two sons...even though he has two natures, body and soul, the body from you, the soul from God alone. (On the Councils and the Church, 1539).
See post 77
So Luther is on the good list again? Poor fellow doesn’t know if he’s in or out.
It would seem as though some people are professing the Nestorian heresy, correct? Seems to be alive and well today.
NESTORIANISM
A fifth-century Christian heresy that held there were two distinct persons in the Incarnate Christ, one human and the other divine, as against the orthodox teaching that Christ was a divine person who assumed a human nature. Its name was taken from Nestorius (died c. 451), a native of Germanicia in Syria, and later Bishop of Constantinople. Nestorianism was condemned by the ecumenical Council of Ephesus in 431.
Postulating two separate persons in Christ, when Nestorius came to describe their union, he could not have them joined ontologically (in their being) or hypostatically (constituting one person), but only morally or psychologically. They would be united only by a perfect agreement of two wills in Christ, and by a harmonious communication of their respective activities. This harmony of wills (eudoxia) and the communion of action to which it gives rise are what forms the composite personality (henosia) of Christ.
In the Nestorian system we cannot speak of a true communication of idioms, i.e., that while the two natures of Christ are distinct the attributes of one may be predicated of the other in view of their union in the one person of Christ. Accordingly it could not be said that God was born, that he was crucified or died; Mary is not the Mother of God, except in the broad sense of giving birth to a man whose human personality was conjoined to the Word of God.
Nestorian bishops continued to propagate their views, and the confusion this produced among the people contributed to the success of Islam in the seventh century.
All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon’s Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.
“Evidently that is exactly the precision the early Church was looking for by using “Theotokos”: it affirms Mary’s role as God-bearer in her motherhood of Jesus in the flesh and in time, and avoids the misconception that she was somehow his mother from eternity, or the source of his Godhood.”
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We have a winner.
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Mary is not the mother of God she was the mother of Jesus.Mary is the mother of a Person. A divine Person. The second Person of the Blessed Trinity, incarnate. Son of God, Son of Man. One Person, two natures. Mary is the mother of God and the mother of Jesus. They are the same person.
There is no biblical basis for either claim.
You need to read Luke’s account of the Visitation again.
Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit says to Mary:
“How is this that the Mother of my Lord should visit me?”
Indeed, it is in the Bible.
No.
They cherry-pick Luther the same way they claim he cherry-picks the bible.
No, and it is a totally irrelevant question as it has no impact whatsoever on a single person’s salvation, whether you agree she has that title or not.
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