Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Interesting and thoughtful analysis. I believe Nestorius got a bad rap. Some scholars have recently concluded there was a technical language barrier that led to Nestorius being misunderstood, that his “two persons” were functionally identical to the “two natures” of Chalcedon. Based on this, I believe there are even discussions of reconciliation with the still existing Nestorian churches, a kind of belated apology for a tragic misunderstanding.
Which all goes to your larger point, if I understand it correctly, that there can be a great deal more heat than light in some of these conversations, and it is incumbent on all of us to nurture whatever good we can out of these conflicts.
Peace,
SR
STILL ... only a masochist would even THINK about considering wading into 1500 plus comments on an invented doctrine alien to Jesus.
Fits quite well!
“With that many Catholics around the globe, it’s likely you know some of them as relatives, friends, neighbors, or co-workers. Find out what they don’t know—the origin and error of Catholic doctrine—so you can help the Catholics you know out of the darkness and into the light”. ~ John MacArthur
Please point out any Catholics on these threads that have had that "confusion". I have yet to met one. I would go further and say tat I have never met a single Catholic that believes that Mary is the mother of either "The Father" of the "Holy Spirit". We all (Catholics) know that she gave birth to the infant Jesus.
Eventually, you'll see THIS - which was never answered.
Personally, I've reached P3 (Point of Pearls and Pigs.)
Just don’t like too many matches around all your strawmen you want me to play with.
Mary is dead.
Fact - no silly gisms needed.
Yep; you guys never reply once one is posted.
We?
You and your pigeon friends?
I got 'drawn in' when FR Catholics (the mouthy ones) keep boasting and bragging and insisting that ROME's way is the ONLY way to Heaven.
I just LOVE posting Scripture that SHOWs this to be incorrect.
I just LOVE when the 'non'-idols that they do 'not' worship get dragged thru the mud.
1 Samuel 5:1-3
We know.
Tell me which of the following syllogism are valid, and which are invalid. If you are capable of doing so, that will demonstrate that you can recognize the fallacy of the undistributed middle. If you can’t, you can’t.
A:
Dorothy is the mother of Sam.
Sam is a fireman.
Dorothy is the mother of a fireman.
It IS?
Thanks for explaining!
This is Rome's argument:
Do what ever we tell you or you are
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours." — Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema. — Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1
Frustratin' ain't it; having to defend what you did NOT say!
What 'premise'?
I linked things together just like Rome has.
Therefore (ain't conclusions WUNNERFUL?) I am as good as Rome.
There that there is as good as a sillygism as you gonna find today!
Mary is the mother of Jesus. Jesus is God. Mary is the mother of God. Anyone who says that any one of these syllogisms is invalid because one of the terms is “God,” does not have any idea what the science of Logic is about.
ELSIE is a poster on FR.
FR is like a GOD like Heaven to thousands of people.
ELSIE is SAINT there.
Anyone who says that this syllogism is invalid because a few of the terms is “ELSIE,” does not have any idea what not being a _______________.
Fill in your OWN blank: Rome does.
Mary is a HUMAN. Humans are sinners Mary was a sinner.
Mary was (do we have to PROVE it?) a human.
The BIBLE (which Rome assembled and compiled) says that ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of GOD. (Do I have to PROVE it?)
Now, somehow, Rome has influenced it's minions that Mary is; somehow; NOT a sinner.
Go figger...
Millions of times a day they say...
I have noticed that many of the Catholics resort to name calling and go on the OFFENSIVE when confronted with issues they can’t answer. I find that very typical.
Hell no!
They 'believe' apparitions and visions and magisterium decisions instead!
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