Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Uhhhhh, who made up that 30's group that you are a member of???Navigators, is it???
It is astonishing how many people have been poisoned with hatred of Mary, to such as extent that they can look at a formally valid syllogism, and declare it invalid. Or they can look at a declaration in the gospel that Mary is the mother of God—”Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”—and deny that it is saying any such thing.
John 1:1 will cover it I believe.
See how easy it is to find ALL of your answers in the Word?
To begin with D is invalid, as one person being God does not make him the Trinity. Nor does being the mother of a member of Congress make her the mother of Congress. God is a Trinity, and while Jesus is rightly called God as He is indeed God by nature, yet could not be God alone.
And which illustrates the problem with the uncritical use of the phrase, "Mother of God," which too easily conveys ontologically begetting Divinity. As much as you may want to avoid Mary being inferred to be the mother of the Trinity, the popular abundant use of MOG easily infers Mary as at least being some sort of Divine goddess, and the protest against MOG cannot be separated from the hyper hyperdulia ascribed to her.
As i have said, what Ratzinger said about the use of the term " Co-redemptrix" that it "departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings, applies to MOG as regards the language of Scripture.
Instead of saying anyone is the mother of God, Scripture even adds "as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen" (Romans 9:5) when stating that Christ came out of Israel.
And as concerns the logic of the polemic "if Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God," one could say that since the Jews (standing for us) killed Christ, and Christ is God, then... Technically allowed with equivocation, but you see the problem. Also, CARM states ,
There is a sense in which the syllogism is true but also another in which it is not. Let's take a look.
A syllogism is a set of premises with a conclusion. Here is their syllogism about Mary . . .
Within this syllogism is the fallacy of equivocation. This fallacy occurs when a word or words change meaning in the usage of an argument.
Upon this Rock I will build My church....sounds Catholic to me.
He, not you, determines what sin is. Can the president divulge secret information....no, because if he divulges something, he has declared it non secret....same with God, if He does it, it isn't sin.
That was obvious when it was first posted... here we are 1,000 posts later.
Do you think he/she will stop trying?
No. Neither do I.
You really missed a lot of catechism classes didn't you???....which statement was false????.....I didn't think so.
Well, what do they know?
Who cares??
How nice, that you are so easily amused. LOL
Below may be where the catholic is getting this from.
I've often wondered why roman catholics are so insistent on this. I do not think they realize what they are saying and how they are being duped.
The salutation of the angel Gabriel -- chaire kecharitomene , Hail, full of grace ( Luke 1:28 ) indicates a unique abundance of grace, a supernatural, godlike state of soul, which finds its explanation only in the Immaculate Conception of Mary. www.catholicencyclopedia - immaculateconception
As I said before, the proof is there, non-Catholics choose not to see it.
Wow....I’ve seen doubling down before in discussions; but you take the prize on this one.
When you find Christ giving into every demand to explicitly say what was He made manifest to them then so will I. Until then you must do as He expected them to so, which is to look at what was said and done and realize that I told you that I believe the Jesus is God the Son, thus sending you to a link to my web page (which site is plainly listed on my home page) which i explicitly said was "affirming Jesus Christ is God the Son."
Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. (John 10:24-25)
Christ requires seeking, which evidences one is worthy to receive Truth, and prepares the heart to appreciate it, and would not be made a puppet to submit to man's un-reasonable demands.
your question pointing to your own blog was inconclusive.
Then if you think "Did you not see the link i provided affirming Jesus Christ is God the Son?" is inconclusive that it is a case of blindness, or laziness or just insolence. Pick you poison, i am done with trying to make you see the obvious.
Never used the word amused, I said, I said interesting. Amuse means with out thought "A" "muse" This is something most non-Catholics are guilty of. On the other hand interesting means that thought is required. You will find this in the majority of Catholic responses, but almost none of the non-Catholic.
Catholics must double down on the truth.
Probably, Catholic clergy actually get an extensive education in theology....unlike some who get their credentials from an on line diploma mill....
because we actually believe that Jesus is God.....don't you??
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