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To: Mad Dawg

Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God; the Lord is One


??? Our Father (and Jesus's momma -- who is Our momma too) in heaven,


"N'ayez pas peur Madame, ce ne sont que des gueux"

translation:
Fear not madam, they are nothing but beggars




635 posted on 07/23/2015 11:19:58 AM PDT by BlueDragon ("Another d-mn'd thick, square book! Always, scribble, scribble, scribble! Eh! Mr. Gibbon?")
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To: BlueDragon
One of the first Dominican martyrs wrote “Credo in unum Deum,” with his blood on the ground, as he died at the hands of dualists.

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Just as I agree with the Nicene-Constantinopolitan (say THAT three times fast) Creed in its Trinitarian splendor, so also I agree with Ephesus and Chalcedon that Jesus is one person in two natures so Mary is properly called “Theotokos.”

(In fact, in an analogous way, we in whom the Spirit dwells are also God bearers, one could say. )

But she is forever a creature, so while I believe the destiny of all the saved is greater than we can imagine, she can never receive divine honors.

The regal honors paid to the spouse or mother of the king are hers by courtesy, not by right. I think since we use “court” language about God, we should get to know the nuances.

Worshippers of Ashtaroth may have thought she was “Queen of Heaven” by right. We “get” that Mary, full of grace, is not cannot be queen that way.
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To paraphrase Ps. 84, better a beggar by the door of the house of the Lord, than to dwell in the two-storey penthouse of wickedness.

645 posted on 07/23/2015 12:39:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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