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To: Just mythoughts

...”How does one demonstrate they ‘rely and are in Jesus Christ’? ...Not to all the people, but to the Heavenly Father?”....

Why would you see a need to “demonstrate” you are in Christ to the Heavenly Father when He IS God...when he clearly states...”I know the ones I have chosen”...and ...”My sheep hear My voice, and ‘I know them’, and they follow Me”... But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

John 13:18....John 10:27...John 10:4,8,16..ICor.8:3


447 posted on 07/22/2015 12:00:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
In addition, here is an important part of the discourse found in Jn 10:

"...you do not believe because you are not my sheep."

The reason they do not believe is BECAUSE they are not His sheep.

449 posted on 07/22/2015 12:18:19 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: caww
Why would you see a need to “demonstrate” you are in Christ to the Heavenly Father when He IS God...when he clearly states...”I know the ones I have chosen”...and ...”My sheep hear My voice, and ‘I know them’, and they follow Me”... But if any man love God, the same is known of him. John 13:18....John 10:27...John 10:4,8,16..ICor.8:3

Ah, the 'chosen'. (Eph. 1:4) Paul says the chosen (elect) were chosen 'before the foundation of the world'. (This is the Greek word katabole, which means casting down - overthrow) Genesis 1:2. Meaning, they are the ones, like Paul, justified... And yet Paul showed what his passion was before he took that trip to Damascus. Now, what was Saul's/Paul's problem. Well, one only need to read Stephen's sermon in the book of Acts, to see what those of the religious order were against.

Stephen did give a really decent sermon on Christianity and its early beginnings all the way back in the 'Old Testament'.

450 posted on 07/22/2015 12:25:14 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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