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I am grateful you attempted a definition of "bashing." However, it is hopelessly subjective. That is the core of our objection to it. For example, theologically conservative evangelicals cannot process that genuflecting to a wafer in a monstrance isn't idolatry. I would argue we are right to have that disability, that it is the correct way to view the situation. We know full well the charge is denied. We simply can't get past the objective fact that the wafer is underserving of worship, no matter what rationalizations are offered, up to and including Aquinas.

Obviously, the RC who is accustomed to this practice lives immersed within what we consider a rationalization, and no doubt thinks we are just being willfully obstinate by insisting they are doing something wrong.

So I get how difficult it is to have these kinds of conversations.

Which is precisely why it is going to be so very difficult to come up with objective criteria for what is "bashing." I think the term is useless. It's root sense is simply to criticize something. As in critical thinking. If you have any personal beliefs about the matter, you cannot compare the Roman version of the Gospel with the evangelical version without critiquing the differences. If truth matters, those differences matter.

So a narrower definition must be sought. I've been struggling with this. I agree that an endless stream of criticism, even if done dispassionately and with the best intentions, may not be the best way to "win friends and influence people." So I'm thinking that a more judicious use of the forum, combined with keeping the tone as friendly as possible, is probably closer to the ideal being sought. But this "definition" is a work in progress. I don't really know if I'm on target or not. Just making my best guess so far.

Peace,

SR

611 posted on 07/19/2015 6:00:13 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Catholics would never genuflect to a wafer, we do genuflect to Jesus Christ.

For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgement on himself. 1 Cor 11:29

Catholics discern the body.


635 posted on 07/19/2015 6:14:24 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Springfield Reformer

Btw, my dictionary says “ discern” means to recognize or perceive.


646 posted on 07/19/2015 6:21:59 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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