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To: afsnco
Christ was obviously condemning using “father” as an honorific

He evidently didn't tell Paul:

For if you were to have countless tutors in Christ, yet you would not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. -- 1 Cor 4:15, NASB

I appeal to you for my child Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my imprisonment … -- Phlm 10, NASB

Catholics rather boldly teach that their traditions trump Scripture wherever the two are in dispute

Well, no, actually we teach no such thing. But we're happy to teach that "our traditions" trump *your* erroneous understanding of Scripture.

49 posted on 07/08/2015 10:08:20 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion

Actually, the original Greek of 1 Cor. 4:15 didn’t use the word “pater” at all. Instead, there were many “instructors/tutors” and he “regenerated/conceived/etc.” them through the gospel. “Pater” wasn’t used in Phm 10 either. It’s using “father” as an honorific that Christ condemned, and Paul carefully didn’t use that word, the NASB notwithstanding.

So Catholics go to a man they shouldn’t call “father,” and he absolves them of sin he has no ability to absolve, if they repetitively pray five Hail Marys. Nope. Don’t see any tradition there at all. Every bit of that is supported in Scripture. /s

Which brings up another puzzler:

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Multiple Hail Marys?


51 posted on 07/08/2015 10:39:20 AM PDT by afsnco
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