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To: Lil Flower
Now, should every member of the SB convention leave because of sinful, wicked pastors?

No, because Baptists don't make the same claim as Catholics.  When I was in Virginia, our fellowship (baptistic but not SB) disciplined one of the associate pastors for sexual sin.  It is sadly a very common problem.  But it didn't ever occur to us to leave, because no pastor there nor any SB or other Baptist pastor I know of claims to be the sole Vicar of Christ on earth. The paradigm is different.  From our point of view the only infallible representative of God on earth, as a living person, is the Holy Spirit. But for a man to claim the Vicarship and then fail to live up to that claim is to do far more damage than any mere pastor with moral failure could ever do.  It is a claim that directly affronts the Person of Christ Himself.  It is high blasphemy.

But I understand the defensive claim, I think.  It's the office that's supposedly infallibly representative, not the man.  And so one may theoretically separate the representation of Christ from the reality of the man who is supposedly the representative. He could be any old evil blaggard and still serve as the Vicar of Christ. If you feel comfortable with that, that's your choice.  But to me it represents a justification for ecclesiastical schizophrenia. I would never have imagined reading through the NT after my conversion a situation where Christ would intentionally vest all His authority on earth in a man driven by Satanic impulses.  There is something really wrong with that picture.

But as for me and mine, our "Vicar of Christ" is no fallible pastor nor fallible Roman pontifex maximus reincarnated, but is the truly infallible, living, sinless Holy Spirit, who is the only one ever officially presented in Scripture as the true replacement for Christ on earth while He is away preparing to receive us into Heaven:
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
(John 16:7-8)
Peace,

SR
272 posted on 06/20/2015 5:27:49 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

You didn’t finish my quote. I said no as well, only for different reasons. You’re answer to my post sounds a lot like the man in the synagogue “thanking” God he was not like the other man.


406 posted on 06/21/2015 10:04:54 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Springfield Reformer; Lil Flower
Now, should every member of the SB convention leave because of sinful, wicked pastors?

Priests that rape little boys are not a reason to leave Rome.. Priests that have affairs with married women are not a reason to leave Rome ... The fact that there is no salvation in that cracker , no forgiveness in that little box, no Holy Spirit in that "slap " from that bishop.. no forgiveness of sin in that baptismal water... There is only Salvation in Christ alone .

488 posted on 06/22/2015 8:59:57 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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