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To: ADSUM; betty boop
I have NOT ONCE stated that Jesus is wrong. Jesus is God with us, He cannot be wrong. As God, in Leviticus 3:17 He declared For All Their Generations, do not eat the blood. I am continuously saying the catholic church is wrong.

There is no way to be justified before God by any gastronomic process. It IS the Body sacrificed upon the Cross that is for your salvation, not the unleavened bread of the Eucharist which is for the remembrance of the sacrifice. It is by FAITH that you have His sacrifice when you take the unleavened bread, not by ingesting unleavened bread as the literal body of Christ. It is BY FAITH that His blood is shed for you and spread upon the Mercy Seat top cover the law of sin and death for you. It is not by swallowing the literal blood of Christ to be eventually expelled through the drought. Jesus said it is the words that he speaks:

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Romans 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Seeking absolution of sin by deeds of the flesh (eating His body, literally, drinking His blood, literally, constantly going to an institutional priest to confess and get forgiveness of sin, doing alms, doing good deeds) which generate pride in self does not obtain Justification. Of such trusting in works will Jesus declare, 'Depart from me, I never knew you.'

230 posted on 06/20/2015 11:35:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Your comment: “I have NOT ONCE stated that Jesus is wrong.”

I disagree with your statement.

You have ignored the words of Jesus and by your comments accuse Jesus of not speaking the Truth.

John 6
The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?”

53Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.

54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

Matthew 26
The Lord’s Supper. 26* j

While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said,

“Take and eat; this is my body.”* k 27

Then he took a cup, gave thanks,* and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, 28l for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.

Perhaps one’s position is so fixed it can not or will not understand the true meaning of the words of Jesus.

Or perhaps there is so much animosity towards the Catholic Church that unless one becomes a Catholic, then one can not properly receive the Body and Blood of Jesus that Jesus said to Eat and Drink this for everlasting life.

The spirit vs. flesh argument is specious.


237 posted on 06/20/2015 1:51:56 PM PDT by ADSUM
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