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To: daniel1212; RnMomof7

Of course, as Peter never is shown exercising any unique power, while that the gospel are the keys or key to the kingdom is manifest as it is by faith in it that one is translated into that kingdom.


I believe that is something that we could also argue all day about and either argument could be justified, Jesus did not spend three and a half years with his hand picked apostles for nothing.

It is actually more evident that it was James whose word was taken as gospel by the leaders in the Church>>>>>>>>>

I suppose that is another thing we would never stop arguing about as Peter took what Jesus said about the lack of authority among the apostles serious.

But it seems very likely to me that even though the Catholic church holds Peter as the first Pope their doctrine is built around Paul`s teachings rather than Peters.


115 posted on 06/19/2015 7:47:20 PM PDT by ravenwolf (t)
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To: ravenwolf
But it seems very likely to me that even though the Catholic church holds Peter as the first Pope their doctrine is built around Paul`s teachings rather than Peters.

Where do you get the infallible perpetuated Petrine papacy, Mary of Catholicism, NT pastors distinctively named priests, consuming human flesh to obtain spiritual life, praying to created beings in Heaven, etc. out of Paul's writings?

All and more are actually absent from Scripture.

119 posted on 06/19/2015 7:56:41 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: ravenwolf
But it seems very likely to me that even though the Catholic church holds Peter as the first Pope their doctrine is built around Paul`s teachings rather than Peters.

I don't see that at all...The Catholic religion avoids Paul's teaching and gospel at all costs...And certainly Peter never taught the things the Catholic religion teaches...They are a rogue religion that has no basis in scripture...

165 posted on 06/19/2015 10:23:42 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ravenwolf; RnMomof7; Salvation; BipolarBob; MHGinTN; daniel1212
Mt.16.19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

I will explain the "keys of the kingdom of heaven", and binding and loosing on earth and in heaven.

The keys both bind and loose.

Peter first binds the Church to the Law at the beginning of Acts. For 15 chapters the Church is run as a sect of Judaism out of the temple in Jerusalem based on keeping the Old Covenant Law. If the disciples had not kept the Law they would have been stoned to death at the orders of the leaders of the Jews. God abided by this decision, blessing the Church in many ways - what Peter bound on earth was bound in heaven.

The Law binds:

Ga.3.23 Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed.

Ga.4.9 But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?

Freedom from the law loosens:

Ro.8.1-2 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.

Ga.5.1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

At the council of Ac.15 it is Peter who again uses the keys of loosening to cast off the Law from the Church:

Ac.15.5-7a,10 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses." 6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: 10 "Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?"

The Law was abandoned. The Church was freed from the Law, and God again honored that decision as loosed in heaven. That is the extent of the binding and loosing that Peter had with the keys given to him by Christ - the keys to bind and loose the Law on the Church.

169 posted on 06/19/2015 11:42:43 PM PDT by DeprogramLiberalism (<- a profile worth reading)
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