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To: BlueDragon

For someone that likes to slam Catholicism, why do you keep reading that very Catholic document called the Holy Bible. For without the Catholic Church the Bible wouldn’t exist.


25 posted on 06/17/2015 8:25:33 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet; BlueDragon
For someone that likes to slam Catholicism, why do you keep reading that very Catholic document called the Holy Bible. For without the Catholic Church the Bible wouldn’t exist.

This arrogant statement gets so old. As if God, the Creator of all things, couldn't have maintained His Word, with or without the assistance of mere men.

We could turn around the question and ask why catholics don't read and trust the book they claim they put together....but tradition trumps the Word in catholicism.

27 posted on 06/17/2015 10:21:55 AM PDT by ealgeone
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Addressing myself you began;

going towards making this as personal as possible, right out of the gate!

I like to, you say?

You fail at mind-reading.

Additionally; I don't "slam" Catholicism, as much as I do point towards certain and particular aspects of fairly typical [Roman] Catholic beliefs in fable & error which are mixed in with, blended with truth. It often takes much effort to isolate and (hopefully) extricate the errors --- without damaging the truth of Christ Himself (and His best intentions for us all) in the process.

I see that you did not touch upon any of that discussion of issues, at all.

You question me as for even reading the Bible in the first place? A 'Catholic document you say, as in Roman Catholic? That's laughable, for the Church of Rome, at best, received the texts --- rather than be in any real way originator of them.

But how telling, and how 10th to early 20th century 'Romish' the overall response you gave truly is; the act itself of reading the texts being questioned, as if reading the Bible is some sort of crime, like it once was if not having express written permission of some RCC prelate to do so.

You may as well have said; Don't read the Bible and see what it says, just believe what WE tell you that it says, and means.

For without the Catholic Church the Bible wouldn’t exist.

The Church of Rome received it FROM JEWS...and then in regards to their own selves, in later centuries took that descriptive word 'catholic' and changed that from being an adjective meaning universal, to being a pronoun, and then claimed the adjective belonged solely to themselves, while demanding today that everyone call themselves that and nothing other...

There are hosts of errors packed into your own brief statements. What a tangled mess of presuppositions Roman Catholicism appears to be, going by the continuing demonstrations and expressions of "it"....

I'm sick to death of needing to deal with Romish error. So no, again, I do not like it and do not "like" writing about it.

You had said (again)

in response to myself showing one place where the Roman Catholic Church ecclesiastical organization AND NONE OTHER had corrupted the Latin text itself of what Jerome had translated, in slight but significant departure from the words, and meanings of those words which had originally been given to the JEWS? I'd say -- "you can't be serious" but I see that you are.

The Latin branch of Christian Church cannot much at all credit itself for any portion of what we refer to as Bible, most acutely not in any position at all to take credit for (and call "Catholic") the books of Moses. Yet --- you just attempted to attribute & credit the RCC for the one of the most primary and basic books of the Old Testament?

Just where do Roman Catholics get off?

36 posted on 06/18/2015 1:25:15 AM PDT by BlueDragon (i'm beginning to look forward to my visit here on your little planet coming to an end. I *think*)
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